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June 07, 2011, 10:40:43 PM +0100 - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Historic (66)
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7) F1 1966 1 1:31.152
115.601mph
1 50:46.270
114.149mph
33 1:31.228
115.504mph
Goodyear  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Ferrari 246 F1 1966 2 +0.292
115.232mph
2 +7.299
113.876mph
33 1:31.200
115.540mph
Firestone  
EvilClive
 HikiWazaRacing
Brabham BT11 (BRM V8) F1 1966 4 +0.521
114.944mph
3 +7.407
113.872mph
33 1:30.984
115.814mph
Goodyear  
G Jonsson
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.5) F1 1966 5 +1.465
113.772mph
4 +1:07.662
111.669mph
33 1:32.730
113.633mph
Goodyear  
Ronniepeterson
 
Brabham BT11 (BRM V8) F1 1966 6 +1.485
113.748mph
5 +1:11.307
111.538mph
33 1:32.797
113.551mph
Goodyear  
ivandjj
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7) F1 1966 11 +3.834
110.935mph
6 +1L
110.047mph
32 1:33.943
112.166mph
Goodyear  
blito
 Nessuna Speranza
BRM P261 (1966) F1 1966 8 +2.529
112.480mph
7 +7L
109.637mph
26 1:33.566
112.618mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Hristo Itchov
 HikiWazaRacing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1966) F1 1966 3 +0.295
115.228mph
8 +13L
113.950mph
20 1:31.002
115.791mph
Disco
Firestone  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 246 F1 1966 10 +3.826
110.944mph
9 +17L
106.686mph
16 1:34.409
111.613mph
Disco
Firestone  
il_lupo_mannaro
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 246 F1 1966 7 +2.074
113.029mph
10 +18L
108.851mph
15 1:33.931
112.181mph
Disco
Firestone  
BadBlood
 HikiWazaRacing
Ferrari 246 F1 1966 13 +5.262
109.292mph
11 +26L
83.550mph
7 1:39.400
106.008mph
Disco
Firestone  
s2173
 
Brabham BT11 (BRM V8) F1 1966 12 +4.000
110.741mph
12 +32L
98.746mph
1 1:41.557
103.757mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Nigel Smith
 HikiWazaRacing
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7) F1 1966 9 +2.681
112.298mph
13 +11.345
89.256mph
1 1:53.800
92.594mph
accident
Goodyear  
BookieW
 HikiWazaRacing
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7) F1 1966 14 DNS ---
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Goodyear  
ivandjj
 
Brabham BT19 (Repco) F1 1966 15 ---
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Goodyear  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
BRM P261 (1966) F1 1966 14 16 ---
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Goodyear  

Moderator's Report

So the Historic roadshow rolls into Silverstone. A track we all know with no terrors whatsoever. Not much to add? Well maybe.
Not as incident packed as Monsanto perhaps but lots of spins and spills where drivers just pushed that bit too far for that extra tenth and lost tens...
Qualifying saw a dominant performance from...Tim! H could only manage third with Fulvio hooking it up to pip him to the front row by just three thousandths of a second. Less than two seconds covered first to sixth and then some bigger gaps towards the back.

The race is the story of three nose to tail battles, one big midfield battle, with the rest of the field having their own somewhat quieter adventures, albeit that there were some exciting moments all the way down the grid.
The start: Fulvio is quickly reminded of the pecking order by H as he can only hold off the Championship leader to Maggots. Fulvio quickly has his mirrors full of Evil. Two battles joined. Further back Blito has made a blistering start and got between Goran and Ronnie, having easily outdragged Fabio. Unfortunately for Jason he can only hold that lead until Club when he goes wide and spins after a trip on the slippy green. He is the first to spin there. He won’t be the last.
End of lap 1. Tim leads from H. So will Fulvio be nose to tail with Evil – NO! Fulvio has clipped a kerb at Chapel and lost traction on the exit. Evil makes the pass but generously gives the place back, and more, when he too clips a kerb at Abbey. Again, he won’t be the last. Evil spins wickedly and Fulvio is relieved not to be collected but gets his place back. Goran, Ronnie and Fabio all take advantage with Sky sneaking through as well.
So battle is joined at the front. Goran and Ronnie’s battle is underway and Fulvio’s and Evil’s has not yet sparked to life. The early laps see the leading five in close proximity matching times lap for lap. Fulvio just has the oomph to catch Ronnie and then Goran but up front, you cannot separate Tim and H.

So what of the midfield. Sky has already merited a mention - he starts last on the grid. [Dozy Badblood has taken to the pits, where to judge from the lap times, somebody has put sugar in his fuel!]. Sky makes a place at the start and then loses it immediately when he takes to the grass, but then he goes into an overtaking frenzy and passes Ivan, Nigel and Phil at Stowe, Jason on the run to Abbey and Evil on the Farm Straight. Wow. Sadly he then overcooks it at Beckets and crashes out.
As hinted above Nigel has a big coming together with Phil at Stowe as Mr Thornton’s red machine delivers too much too early and he spins. Nigel drives on, seemingly unaffected but clips a kerb at Chapel and collects Ivan but sportingly allows Mr D to recover and keep the place. Jason takes advantage and makes back a few places after his own spin. Previously, Phil has also done well to avoid the spinning green car and gets his place back.
Busy Lap. Everyone passes the start/finish within a few seconds of each other. Except for Badblood who is busy making a mess of Abbey.
For the next three laps, H and Tim are at it hammer and tongs and Gorran and Ronnie are never separated by more than a couple of seconds. As mentioned Fulvio manages to catch and pass, first Ronnie, on lap 4 and then Goran on the next lap. Evil continues his recovery behind those three having quickly put Phil back in his place, so to speak. He then passes Fabio on Lap 4.
Fabio has had a steady start but he spins agin on lap 6 at Club which allows Phil and Jason through and Ivan to close up. Several laps of close racing follow and Ivan gets very close. They follow the treacle slow Badblood into Copse. BB goes wide to let them through and ends up dangling on the ‘R’ of the Silverstone sign. Ahead, Phil, loses it at Club and has an argument with the tree there but manages to continue. Ivan gets very close to Fabio on Lap 12 but it takes until Lap 14 to get his man when he gets a better exit out of Abbey. Now Fabio chases and next lap he gets a good run onto the Farm Straight. He tries a pass at Woodcote but as he cuts back in front he loses the car and crashes out. Lap 17 and Phil gets it wong at Beckets and this time the tree wins. Ivan and Jason continue in splendid isolation. On Lap 23 Jason drops it at Club and Ivan picks up the pieces. They continue until Lap 27 when Jason has trouble at Club again and this time his engine decides to give up. So from four closely matched racers only one continues.

How about the leaders? Lap 5 and H manages a pass into Copse. He gets sideways but so does Tim and H gets a better exit. They are side by side into Maggots but H has the inside line and Tim backs off fractionally. He then has a big moment as he touches the grass but gets it back under control in time for Beckets. Impressive stuff from both of them.
Tim closes up at Stowe and their follows several laps of nose to tail driving which is extremely impressive to watch. Finally Tim manages to time a pass at Stowe and although H comes back, Tim outdrags him to Club. Lap 10 and H moves inside at Copse but Tim is faster to Maggots – too fast – he takes to the grass and H drives round him at Beckets, making it stick at Chapel with the inside line. Fair but hard driving. No quarter asked or given.
It takes Tim six more laps to get close enough to have another go at Stowe and there appears to be slight contact between the cars (although thnis is a limitation of GPL as there is obviously a gap). H drops back a little and the two settle down to some hotlapping. On Lap 20 there is another brave attempt into Stowe and H gets his nose in front but Tim has made the better exit and gets to Club first, he misjudges Abbey fractionally and takes to the Farm straight grass letting H through again. H leads into Lap 21. Tim comes storming back and gets a good inside line at Maggots. H leaves room but DISASTER. GPL decides that the collision boxes have overlapped and spins Hristo off despite the visible gap. He would have recovered except for an ill placed ‘plane that takes his wheel off. End of a fantastic battle. The race is there for Tim to take. 12 laps to go.
It seems an anticlimax but there are other battles going on and we must see how they turn out too.

A little bit further back Goran and Ronnie are to finish in that order after a nose to tail battle of some thirty laps! Goran had led the early laps but touches the kerb at Abbey on lap 7 and Ronnie takes advantage. By lap 13 he is back to play and pressurises Ronnie, who is faultless until on Lap 22, he too, ironically, clips the kerb at Abbey. They will continue the close racing to the end.
Clive has made it back into third place having driven faultlessly since his lap 1 spin. He disposes of Ronnie and Goran with neat passes. His pass on Ronnie at Woodcote was very nice. Fabio has earlier spun at Beckets to let Clive past. Cliev settles down to some hot laps of his own and claims the fastest lap of the race. By lap 30 he is full size in Fulvio’s mirrors. Fulvio is on the ragged edge and goes wide at Stowe, possibly distracted by Ivan ahead, Clive gets alongside to Club but backs off. Ivan pulls aside and lets them through. For the next three laps it is nip and tuck and if Clive had not touched the grass on the last time down the Farm Straight, who knows, but it is the Italian who claims second. Not before Clive gets his front wheels overlapping at Woodcote though. Tim has indeed claimed his win.

It was perhaps to be expected that there would be less to write about with Silverstone being such a well known ‘simple’ track, but the report ended up taking six sides of A4!. Fantastic racing, especially from Tim, H and Clive with Fulvio making agreat second. My driver of the day though? Ivan. Not the quickest, but no mistakes for a really hard earned seventh.

Paul "Badblood" Whitfield

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« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2011, 11:39:08 AM +0100 »

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« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2011, 04:53:30 PM +0100 »

Don't usually enjoy Silverstone as a track but great to race on. I had a good scrap with Goran who simply wore me down to the point where I checked my mirror one time too many and exited the track for the scenery. After rejoining the track with Goran now ahead I set about trying to catch him. I finally got him in sight on the very last lap but I suspect he was just doing enough to keep me at bay. Congrats to Tim, Fulvio and Clive.
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« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2011, 06:06:21 PM +0100 »

I had a good scrap with Goran who simply wore me down to the point where I checked my mirror one time too many and exited the track for the scenery. After rejoining the track with Goran now ahead I set about trying to catch him. I finally got him in sight on the very last lap but I suspect he was just doing enough to keep me at bay.

Yes Ronnie it was great, especially since I finish the race in front of you  Grin.  But if you look at our laptimes both in quali and in the race you can see just how close it was.

As a whole my race was OK except when I totally lost focus, forgot to change gear and went off letting Evil and Ronnie by. I was behind Fulvio in 4Th position and  Evil and Ronnie was following but I figured that as long as I could use Fulvio`s tow I would be fine, and then.....................

After that I never saw Evil and Fulvio again, except on the pribluda but I noticed that Ronnie did not manage to stay with Evil so I began to reel him in. When I got on his gearbox I noticed that we had not made the 50% race distance so I backed off a bit and waited.

Then my plan was just to put pressue on him and hope, and it did work finally, over and done with it, and so I got 4Th because of the tragic missfortune up front. 

When I changed the handicap system to only be the two first places in the championship to be handicapped, not four as it was earlier, I never thought that I still would be affected by it, so now I am thinking about handicapping only P1 in the championship  Grin, unfortunately I can not do that in the middle of the season, and the LM2 for some reason have me still in second position alltough on the same points as Fulvio so you can now look forward to running 8Th around me at Brno as well but after that, if you just keep your cars on the track, I think I will have a free choice of car for the race to come.

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« Reply #18 on: June 09, 2011, 06:33:21 PM +0100 »

Handicapping only the first place wouldn't be quite fair, would it? Imagine the case where top 2 placed drivers enter the final race with just a handful of points between them, you'd be literally handing out the title to the driver in 2nd place.
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« Reply #19 on: June 09, 2011, 06:46:07 PM +0100 »

Don`t worry H, I just vented my frustration. I do think it is rather good now.

I just did not expect that  I would hold second position in the championship.

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« Reply #20 on: June 09, 2011, 06:56:02 PM +0100 »

So you prefer NOT to be up the leaderboard? I thought the idea of a Championship is to win...  Roll Eyes Anyway, it's early days, you have plenty of time to lose positions (if Evil's bad luck goes away, lol).  Grin
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« Reply #21 on: June 09, 2011, 06:58:34 PM +0100 »

Had a great race with, i guess, Fabio. Needed about 10 laps of patience until he got in a big enough slide for me to get by. All that time i was thinking if i'm to conservative and should i dive down the inside after some of his minor slides. Couple of laps later he dived down my inside after my minor slide and confirmed that i wasn't too conservative.

Yes Ivan, I enjoyed our fight too!
I was trying to reach Jason in front of me and, at same time, I had to defend myself from your attemps, great fun, indeed!! thumbup2

Unfortunately, when I tried to pass you at T1 I lost the control but, lucky me, I didn't bring you with me outside the track and out of the race (I guess you got some white hair...): shame that it didn't happen only few laps later to score some champ points... Sad

Well I was using a Tommy v O setup and it was great for qually and f$%@ing awful for the race...  Grin

I guess it was the same I downloaded from the Alternative Track Database: after adjusting the brake bias to suit my driving style, it wasn't so bad at all.

Never tried Silvy before with 2L cars and I was really surprised about my starting place, wow!

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« Reply #22 on: June 09, 2011, 07:51:25 PM +0100 »

When I changed the handicap system to only be the two first places in the championship to be handicapped, not four as it was earlier, I never thought that I still would be affected by it, so now I am thinking about handicapping only P1 in the championship  Grin, unfortunately I can not do that in the middle of the season, and the LM2 for some reason have me still in second position alltough on the same points as Fulvio

I don't see why you can't change it... whats the point of power if you don't abuse it...  Grin

Actually I think LM2 has it wrong and Fulvio should be second because he has more second places than you. Up to you though. Maybe the 50% thing has confused it.
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« Reply #23 on: June 09, 2011, 08:35:29 PM +0100 »

So you prefer NOT to be up the leaderboard? I thought the idea of a Championship is to win...  Roll Eyes Anyway, it's early days, you have plenty of time to lose positions (if Evil's bad luck goes away, lol).  Grin

I prefer to be up there at the end of the season and if I am in handicap cars I doubt I will because I do not have your ability to win in any car yet, but do not feel too secure, I begin to feel a bit weird  alien

When I changed the handicap system to only be the two first places in the championship to be handicapped, not four as it was earlier, I never thought that I still would be affected by it, so now I am thinking about handicapping only P1 in the championship  Grin, unfortunately I can not do that in the middle of the season, and the LM2 for some reason have me still in second position alltough on the same points as Fulvio

I don't see why you can't change it... whats the point of power if you don't abuse it...  Grin

Power? who, me?

Actually I think LM2 has it wrong and Fulvio should be second because he has more second places than you. Up to you though. Maybe the 50% thing has confused it.

Well, there you got the power, LM2 rules you know.

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« Reply #24 on: June 09, 2011, 10:31:29 PM +0100 »

3 podiums Vs 2 is the reason I suspect guys  Smiley
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« Reply #25 on: June 09, 2011, 10:49:36 PM +0100 »

In the event of a tie on points, the following criteria will be applied in order:
Number of events entered within the championship
Best finish in class
Best finish overall
Best qualifying position in class
Best qualifying position overall
Most number of wins in class, or 2nd places if tied on wins, and so on down to 6th place.
Most number of wins overall, or 2nd places if tied on wins, and so on down to 6th place.
Most number of class poles in class, or 2nd place qualifying if tied on poles, and so on down to 6th place.
Most number of class poles overall, or 2nd place qualifying if tied on poles, and so on down to 6th place.
If none of the above resolve the tie then it will remain.

That is from the rules and regs and applies to LM2 I think. Fulvio has had a second, Goran has not. It is one for Giz I think.
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« Reply #26 on: June 09, 2011, 11:07:21 PM +0100 »

Yeah, that's odd.
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« Reply #27 on: June 10, 2011, 09:35:09 PM +0100 »

That is from the rules and regs and applies to LM2 I think. Fulvio has had a second, Goran has not. It is one for Giz I think.
Hands up my fault. When I set up the season I left the default srou tie-break rules whereas I should have selected the UKGPL tie-break rules from the dropdown.
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« Reply #28 on: June 20, 2011, 11:52:25 PM +0100 »

The Moderator`s report, or rather, as there were no incidents, Paul`s Race report is published.

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« Reply #29 on: June 21, 2011, 12:20:47 AM +0100 »

Excellent read as always, Paul!
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