UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Grads (67) - Silverstone (GP 1952-73) - Jun 19

[bernie]

Enough of this go faster talk

Back to my graphical issues .........

Rummaging around the loft found 2 of my old towers and have now salvaged the following

I OFF dusty Geforce 5700 256mb agp card

Having tried said card in my current PC I can only say the results are dire to say the least

Question

Should I install original drivers for this card which I can D/L from nvidea,  or are there better drivers out there somewhere ?

Any help comments appreciated , this could be your final chance to get soggie bottoms back where it/they belong  
  

[Tom van Ostade]

On the subject of gear shifts, I'm told your engine heats up when you are running behind someone (not sure if this is true). As a result, in the silverstone race I lifted off completely on most occasions during upshifts when I was running behind Hristo and Joe. The clue is that you don't want to have any load on the driveshaft when the new gear kicks in. A lot of people are already applying throttle before the gear shift is complete. As a result the driveshaft and other parts of the drivetrain get banged on all the time. In essence, it's a speedshift without the benifits. So you want to try to lift off later or longer during upshifts.

Also, each engine has an optimal temperature in which it is most reliable. Because of this, your engine is more likely to expire or damage in the beginning of the race than it is later on. Revving the engine on the starting grid helps a lot, as long as you don't overdo it obviously.

When the track is really bumpy there's a higher chance of an engine problem, too. At Sebring last season my engine expired whilst running over the bumps in the concrete airstrip.

Each engine is different. Some cars, like the little 1965 machines, require a lot of gearshifts to keep the engine running at it's optimum rpm. However, other cars like the Brabham BT24 with the Repco V8, require very lazy shifting as the engine has so much torque over such a long rev range you'd lose time shifting when it isn't necessary.

I also like to have the car in a higher gear through the corner when I find out I have to shift up exiting the corner before the car has settled down. I like to power out of corners with four wheel drifts untill the car has straightened out, after which I shift.

To make a long story short, let common sense prevail . Would you shift the same way in a real car?

Tommie.

[Hristo Itchov]

Everything Tommie Tommie ( ) said is true. Everything Evil said is also true, except the part that maximum torque is near maximum revs for the 65 Honda. The max torque drops a bit earlier, but you still gain speed up until 12k-12.5k RPM.

[b_1_rd]

Not sure it will make much difference, Bernie but try downloading the latest geforce drivers from the nvidia site.

[bernie]

Not sure it will make much difference, Bernie but try downloading the latest geforce drivers from the nvidia site.

Cheers Steve , I did just that ! improved the picture no end!   AOK till I tried a lap of Silver in the Coop

BLACK SCREEN and CTD 


Now left with some headscratching to do , not sure now if it is the GPU or some other gremlin in the box . PSU ?

Dont really want to go down the parts swapping route it could get expensive


Thinking now a newer more up to date MB and CPU etc is the way to go 

[Beefpie]

Good race that one, would've helped if I hadn't spent half of qualifying in the privateers, luckily Bernie spotted my mistake (cheers Bernie!  )

Was a good chase early on, being chased as well as chasing doesn't half hold your concentration, I need to stop exiting the corners backwards, I'll put it down to lack of practice. 

Still glad to get my first works finish in, hopefully the first of many...

[Tom van Ostade]

Everything Tommie Tommie ( ) said is true. Everything Evil said is also true, except the part that maximum torque is near maximum revs for the 65 Honda. The max torque drops a bit earlier, but you still gain speed up until 12k-12.5k RPM.

Woops kept adding sentences lol!

[miner2049er]

Cheers Steve , I did just that ! improved the picture no end!   AOK till I tried a lap of Silver in the Coop

BLACK SCREEN and CTD 

I can't run the newest drivers and GPL. I have to use old drivers or I get CTD.

[bernie]

Well bowl me over with a baseball bat 

Doing a large dose of headbanging ! The thought struck that I recently had a problem with the sound suddenly going off .

The cause ? 1 newly installed kodak wireless printer !

The cure ..... delete some kodak add on stuff (not needed anyway)

Could this jobby be the cause of the CTD's ?

The cure ..... delete the whole lot

Now re install my radeon X800 GTO , fire up GEM , Silverstone Pro long 1 hour pracky P4 on grid and top step on podium (eat dust clark hill and co.)

Absolutely no idea why it should work fine for weeks then suddenly decide to throw a wobbly but suspect cleaning the thing upset the apple cart .

Fingers crossed we are back in business , Ta for the help chaps 


BTW did I mention I hate computers 

[bernie]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh 

Tried again this morning , it died again  :'( :'( :'(

[maddog]

If new drivers haven't fixed it, I'm running an older system, with a GForce 5200, and it's older drivers work fine.  I've heard of newer driver versions occasionally having compatibility problems with older mainboards.  It would be more cost effective to try, than a new mainboard, but needs the newer ones uninstalled first.  You could give one of these a go :  http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?cat=10&sort=0&page=4

No guarantee, but would be nice if older drivers always work, for older drivers.

[Hristo Itchov]

Are you sure your video card isn't overheating, Bernie? Tried cleaning up its fan and heatsink?

[bernie]

Hristo , I already gave it a large dose of cleaning , since when the trouble started 

Martin the X800  was working fine with the latest Nvidia drivers , GPL and all other video has been rock solid for years , only recently I started getting silly glitches problems with sound and stuff , also noticed a marked increase in cooling fan activity , hence the cleaning job .

Thought it was cured but not so , pretty well convinced its the grafix card , problem is I swapped it out with an older card which may or may not have been faulty , thinking about it , it was from one of my old PC's which was probably upgraded cos I was having issues with GPL when the higher graphics car sets and tracks came on the scene .

I have a cunning plan for tommorow , It involves swapping cards over with the missisus computer while she is out to lunch with her mates 

If she ever finds out I'm dead for sure , but it will prove the point (hopefully) 


   

[Arf Arf Arf]

Hristo. Thanks for the link to the Digital Display modifier, I can live with that much info. Did notice 2 things, just wanted to check its the same for you;
1. Although the dialogue box allows users to control FPS, this doesn't appear on my screen (1200*800)
2. Revs in dig display don't appear to sync with the cockpit rev counter (I'll go by the cockpit rev counter)

Its a shame it doesn't give readouts for replays, I might have been able to go back and understand my retirements from PSC and Works last weekend, but hey..I guess I'll just have to put some extra time in blowing engines up  

Thanks for the help everyone.

Arf

[Cookie]

Hi Bernie

If this PC is a little older take a special look on the heads of the capacitors on your mainboard!
They have a cross in metall on top and if this is swollen the capacitor is faulty!
They are in my opinion in the most cases the reason for damage in a pc.
With a little skill in soldering its easy to replace them with better ones. Those capacitors cost only a few cents in an electronic shop

Sorry for my bad english

Cheers
Axel