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  • S21Sp Monza: July 08, 2011
July 08, 2011, 10:45:38 PM +0100 - Monza (Full 10km) - UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Specs
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
EvilClive
 HikiWazaRacing
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 1 2:19.680
160.178mph
1 16:22.999
159.324mph
7 2:18.845
161.141mph
Goodyear  
natan5
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 3 +0.918
159.132mph
2 +14.208
157.054mph
7 2:20.850
158.847mph
Firestone  
Cookie
 
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 5 +1.474
158.505mph
3 +17.909
156.473mph
7 2:19.196
160.735mph
Goodyear  
s2173
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 8 +3.749
155.991mph
4 +52.385
151.263mph
7 2:24.728
154.591mph
Firestone  
HendyNichols
 
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 15 5 +54.303
150.983mph
7 2:20.111
159.685mph
Goodyear  
Samb
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 10 +4.466
155.215mph
6 +1:18.189
147.585mph
7 2:20.621
159.106mph
Firestone  
Ronniepeterson
 Clark-Hill Racing
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 2 +0.563
159.535mph
7 +2:02.485
141.671mph
7 2:19.199
160.731mph
Goodyear  
BadBlood
 HikiWazaRacing
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 12 +9.337
150.141mph
8 +2:46.161
136.287mph
7 2:26.271
152.960mph
Goodyear  
Geoff65
 Clark-Hill Racing
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 9 +3.784
155.953mph
9 +1L
146.631mph
6 2:22.688
156.801mph
Disco
Firestone  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 6 +3.216
156.573mph
10 +1.898
146.327mph
6 2:23.537
155.874mph
Disco
Firestone  
G Jonsson
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 4 +1.313
158.686mph
11 +2L
146.567mph
5 2:21.386
158.245mph
Disco
Firestone  
AuldenA
 
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 7 +3.512
156.249mph
12 +5L
149.366mph
2 2:22.697
156.791mph
Disco
Goodyear  
blito
 Nessuna Speranza
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 14 13 +6.531
146.179mph
2 2:22.592
156.907mph
suspension
Firestone  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 11 +5.344
154.275mph
14 +7L
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0 ---
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Disco
Goodyear  
jhalli
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 16 DNS ---
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Firestone  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 13 17 ---
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Firestone  

Moderator's Report

This one turned out to be a speed fest, with the Eagle particularly quick.


Server replay time: 0h01m14s

67 cars are notoriously unstable on cold tyres. Geoff shows this not to be true for half a minute with a lightning start but it goes wrong in the hedge at Curva Grande.
Escaping the hedge can be tricky & Geoff slews across the track catching Bernie & Sam. Will allow as a Racing Incident - but very poor marks for topiary.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h12m09s

Badblood hits a bump & drifts off-line into Hendy's path. Badbloods car is wreck but Hendy is untroubled. BB's first reset on the banking slides into a dip requiring a second reset. He takes 1 stop & go.
Second reset is free under the circumstances.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h18m04s

Ronnie requires a rest on the last lap & cannot take a SnG. (He did take on for the Reset on 8.23)

July 08, 2011, 10:48:00 PM +0100 - Monza (Full 10km) - UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Specs
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Samb
 Black Night Racing
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 1 2:18.533
161.498mph
1 16:16.957
160.304mph
7 2:18.633
161.382mph
Goodyear  
Hristo Itchov
 HikiWazaRacing
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 4 +0.890
160.467mph
2 +2.465
159.900mph
7 2:18.522
161.511mph
Firestone  
natan5
 
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 3 +0.550
160.860mph
3 +7.612
159.064mph
7 2:18.820
161.164mph
Goodyear  
G Jonsson
 Black Night Racing
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 2 +0.179
161.290mph
4 +8.477
158.925mph
7 2:18.975
160.985mph
Goodyear  
Cookie
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 7 +2.274
158.890mph
5 +29.451
155.613mph
7 2:21.312
158.322mph
Firestone  
Geoff65
 Clark-Hill Racing
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 10 +3.532
157.483mph
6 +57.252
151.430mph
7 2:20.571
159.157mph
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 HikiWazaRacing
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 9 +3.377
157.655mph
7 +2:06.123
141.975mph
7 2:21.063
158.602mph
Firestone  
HendyNichols
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 11 +3.865
157.115mph
8 +3:05.243
134.753mph
7 2:22.990
156.464mph
Firestone  
Ronniepeterson
 Clark-Hill Racing
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 5 +1.142
160.178mph
9 +1L
138.290mph
6 2:19.892
159.929mph
Disco
Firestone  
s2173
 
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 8 +3.050
158.019mph
10 +2L
149.881mph
5 2:22.077
157.470mph
Disco
Goodyear  
AuldenA
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 14 +4.748
156.146mph
11 +32.078
143.705mph
5 2:23.491
155.918mph
Disco
Firestone  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 12 +3.902
157.074mph
12 +1:51.602
130.385mph
5 2:24.746
154.566mph
Disco
Firestone  
blito
 Nessuna Speranza
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 13 +4.077
156.881mph
13 +3L
185.988mph
4 2:22.388
157.126mph
unknown
Goodyear  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 6 +2.161
159.018mph
14 +4L
123.906mph
3 2:54.174
128.451mph
accident
Goodyear  
BadBlood
 HikiWazaRacing
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 15 +19.825
141.280mph
15 DNS ---
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Firestone  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 16 16 ---
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Firestone  

Moderator's Report

Okay - the rules say Unlimited Shift R but this race takes the biscuit with 13!
As mentioned in the Mexico race post the Mod Team are taking this opportunity to clarify the rules that ignoring Shift R's (which are compulsory) will result in a Disqualification. For this event I will apply a 30 Sec penalty as the rules were not so clear.
PS I have watched the replay multiple times but if anyone feels they have been unfairly penalised please let us know.


Server replay time: 0h00m45s

Ronnie no longer wants to be a racing car - he wants to be a hockey puck. He spins on the start bounces off the cones & gets whacked by several other cars. General amnesty declared or everyone else caught up in this one.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h01m05s

Hendy takes a reset with no SnG & again at 05.46.
Two times 30 sec penalties.


Server replay time: 0h01m05s

Evil requires a Reset & again on 05.05 but only takes one SnG.


Server replay time: 0h01m13s

Ronnie - failure to SnG after a reset.


Server replay time: 0h09m13s

Bernie fails to take a SnG after a reset.

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« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2011, 04:01:52 AM +0100 »

The Eagle is wiping the floor with the Ferrari in straight line speed although the Fez is a bit more reliable in the corners. I'm finding the difference almost 2 seconds per lap. I got the Eagle up to 200mph - its faster than Spa...

I confirm, same here!

If you want to get rid of all those people in pits and have fps drops, just try my Monza10k track folder Wink

_http://oron.com/vm4gq4yr4n0u/monza10k.7z.html_

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Nice, thanks, Axel! Always wanted a fix for that...
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« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2011, 07:33:29 AM +0100 »

Remember to keep some top gear up your sleeve for slipstreaming......as both of these will expire if over-revved for too long
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« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2011, 09:40:53 AM +0100 »

Sadly I am going to miss this one as I am in bed with a temperature - and a very nice girl she is too...

Billy how can you have bumps of 1.0 to 1.1 - mine go up in single units between 1 and 5?
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« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2011, 11:44:35 AM +0100 »

Sadly I am going to miss this one as I am in bed with a temperature - and a very nice girl she is too...

Billy how can you have bumps of 1.0 to 1.1 - mine go up in single units between 1 and 5?

If that's the case then you probably don't have the latest patches installed or you start GPL from GPL.exe instead of the modded exes (or via GEM).
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« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2011, 12:53:04 PM +0100 »

I think he means "bump rubbers" as opposed to the bump settings on the shock absorbers ?
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« Reply #20 on: July 08, 2011, 01:20:35 PM +0100 »

I think he means "bump rubbers" as opposed to the bump settings on the shock absorbers ?

That could be it as well, lol. I noticed a couple of people calling bump rubbers and bump setting of the shock absorbers just "bumps", which is rather ambiguous.
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« Reply #21 on: July 08, 2011, 05:21:45 PM +0100 »

Ah yes - of course - I hadn't even notice that they WERE called Bump Rubbers - I never touch them... so I only knew about Bump and Rebound (the shame)
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« Reply #22 on: July 08, 2011, 09:40:43 PM +0100 »

Race 1 - I've just had the weirdest retirement! I was running quite well, up in 6th place, approaching Parabolica. I touched the brakes in exactly the same way as I had on each preceding lap but somehow this time they "grabbed" and the car slewed sideways and came to rest against the fence on the outside of Para.. It would not drive forward, or backwards, and I could not perform a shift+r but dont know why Sad
Reason being given for retirement is "Susp"
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« Reply #23 on: July 08, 2011, 10:24:26 PM +0100 »

Race 2 - another retirement - this time over the top of the final banking whilst in the lead with one lap to go!!!

TBH, lets face it - this circuit is just shit.
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« Reply #24 on: July 08, 2011, 10:39:05 PM +0100 »

Race 2 - another retirement - this time over the top of the final banking whilst in the lead with one lap to go!!!

TBH, lets face it - this circuit is just shit.


You were never in the lead, trust me, Sam led for the whole duration. It's the server timing messing up seriously for some reason - I hope Billy can sort it out (and also post the actual fastest lap time of the race as well).
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« Reply #25 on: July 08, 2011, 10:51:13 PM +0100 »

I kind of guessed something had gone wrong somewhere ... I had passed a good few pile-ups on the way round but couldnt believe what prib was showing me even though the pitboard was also showing P1....  I get the feeling that this circuit is seriously messed up really......
Bit of laugh though, and everyone really should check the race 2 replay just see my car bouncing over the top of the banking Cheesy
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« Reply #26 on: July 08, 2011, 11:23:24 PM +0100 »

Race results may be delayed whilst I sort out what actually happened on Race 2.
The track is known to be a bit glitchy, although we have raced here before & I thought the banking make it a fun event.
Repalys have been posted if you want to look.
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« Reply #27 on: July 08, 2011, 11:46:48 PM +0100 »

Sorry buddy - might have jumped the gun a bit. The replay shows that the server simply counted Hendy as having done a lap when he reset off the start. Same with Clive. It is a strange one but we may have to adjust results. I don't think either Clive or Hendy would claim this as their most distinguished race. Stop n Gos were a bit dodgy too.

As for my world record in Race 1 - Hendy was involved there too. He and I had a coming together at the bridge and when I reset I was on the banking... half a lap further up the road. Personally I am quite happy to be given a penalty equal to half a lap - say 1:15 or to be excluded altogether.

Replays are a bit buggy too. Keeps crashing if you have an out of car view.

Realistically Evil and Hendy sandwich Ronnie in seventh and ninth as their race time is actually the time to finish six laps but they might well have made seven laps which would put them just behind Geoff. That is before any time penalties or other modding effects.
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« Reply #28 on: July 09, 2011, 05:46:34 AM +0100 »

Yeah, the last I saw of Clive, although I don't use prib so I had no idea who it was, I drafted past him on the North Banking I think it is. Yes, drafted PAST Evilclive, you read correctly. A highlight of my GPL online career. Then, held off his determined counter-attack until he was unfortunately wiped from my 6 on the exit of Ascari by.....yes?.....Someone elses accident.
Bad luck Clive, thought you might just follow me through the wreckage. But you chose to pull inside of me........right into the path of a wreck drifting my right to left. If that had have been real...........ouch. Upshot is, I think for certain he was behind me at the finish.
Apologies for the Noob effort of the week, allowing my car to rail ride in T1 after the start, then the inevitable meeting of the greenery, post Rail. The hedge then bounces me back onto the track with as much force as the bloody Womping Willow. Thence ensued crap all over the place........mostly bits of racing car. Sorry gents, got a good start and moved up a few places in the first couple of hundred metres, then it got so crowded in Curva Grande that I had no room to get the car turned properly, as on cold rubber......the Fezza seemed reluctant to turn without brutal persuasion. The short ending, a trip to the Curva Grande exit Hedge. Settled down and drove to the end....until the last lap exiting Sud Curve. I ran the Sth Curve high all the way round til I can see the exit nearing, then pull down low to keep the car off the exit Armco without wrestling it and losing drive off the banking onto the straight. On the last lap, Ray was sticking his nose in the Eagles skirts and drafting up close. I was holding him off.....just, without driving defensively.......using the racing line, but I couldn't pull down low when I needed to as Ray had pulled inside and disappeared from my mirrors, I had to leave him room or there might be a wreck......oops too high!!, flung against the left rail and bouncing back into Rays path. Which ended in a monumental high speed wreck. I'd worked my way back from last to 6th or 7th.......Sigh, next time. Fun races though. I love this track, has more of a real feel about the driving surface, than the original Papy track A lot slipperier in places than the Papy unit too. Congrats to podiums of both races......18's?Huh
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« Reply #29 on: July 09, 2011, 10:23:13 AM +0100 »

Don't get what this track is about myself , raced here (if you  can call it that ) a few times previous but not with 67's and my opinion has not changed . 2/3 of it just like driving on the M6 , utterly boring , can see why the RL drivers boycotted it in the 60's
Having said that I love Monza without the high speed oval bit , one of the better GPL tracks IMO

I'm pretty crap at qually and was well down the order in R1 but had a good race set up and hoped to make a place or two but the Gods of Monza thought otherwise and I got taken out on Lap 1 at Parabolicup by a wayward Geoff as he extracted his car from the bushes as I was passing , sorry if anyone else got involved .

R2 was a total disaster my Fezzerr set up was crap to say the least (even more crap than the driver so must have been bad ) , managed to avoid the T1 dodgems and was thinking   Hmmm ! "Thank you guys , this could be good for track position " but then I got to Lesmo's and realised why my set up was so crap .

Yes you guessed right , that old sucker punch "default set up" was loaded by error ,  49 laps worth of Gas and way overgeared did nothing much to help forward progress . In my enthusiasm to set the track alight I dissapeared over the top a couple of times and used S/R (thought these were PRO rules ) which re set me, both times, right in the middle of the banking  ! By this time though I'd given up and didnt bother with making Pit stops to atone for my sins
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