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August 23, 2011, 09:54:17 PM +0100 - Oulton Park (GP 1954-72) - UKGPL Season 21 (2011) Novices (65)
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 3 +0.438
99.998mph
1 40:29.042
98.179mph
24 1:40.295
99.075mph
Dunlop  
Cookie
 
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 1 1:38.931
100.441mph
2 (+5) +4.996
97.978mph
24 1:39.300
100.068mph
Dunlop  
HendyNichols
 
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 8 +1.682
98.762mph
3 +14.502
97.597mph
24 1:38.372
101.012mph
Dunlop  
francesco
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 5 +0.589
99.847mph
4 +21.000
97.338mph
24 1:39.793
99.573mph
Dunlop  
Nigel Smith
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 6 +0.868
99.567mph
5 +45.798
96.362mph
24 1:38.913
100.459mph
Goodyear  
DuFossa
 Team Coyote
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 13 +3.454
97.053mph
6 +1:11.291
95.380mph
24 1:40.984
98.399mph
Goodyear  
blito
 Nessuna Speranza
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 7 +1.570
98.872mph
7 (+3) +1:37.843
94.378mph
24 1:40.267
99.103mph
Dunlop  
Rotaxmax125
 
Honda RA272 F1 1965 12 +2.773
97.702mph
8 +1:38.724
94.345mph
24 1:41.916
97.499mph
Goodyear  
NHance
 Mountside Racing
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 4 +0.522
99.914mph
9 +1:39.337
94.322mph
24 1:41.196
98.193mph
Dunlop  
economia
 
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 9 +1.723
98.722mph
10 +1L
93.972mph
23 1:40.363
99.008mph
Dunlop  
BadBlood
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 11 +2.521
97.945mph
11 +40.537
92.432mph
23 1:41.398
97.997mph
Goodyear  
AuldenA
 
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 14 +4.276
96.280mph
12 +14L
93.328mph
10 1:41.181
98.207mph
Disco
Dunlop  
s2173
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 2 +0.435
100.001mph
13 +18L
89.777mph
6 1:40.307
99.063mph
Disco
Goodyear  
happyal
 Clark-Hill Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 10 +2.246
98.211mph
14 DNS ---
---
Dunlop  
luked
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 15 +4.704
95.882mph
15 ---
---
Goodyear  
UKGPL 3
 
Honda RA272 F1 1965 16 16 ---
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Goodyear  

Moderator's Report

A tricky circuit for our Novices with lots of braking zones through corners and elevation changes.

Oh, and a pretty lake to look at too.


Server replay time: 0h01m15s

Fran gets a run on Norm towards Island Bend and the Ferrari power is enough to carry him through.
Norm sees the move develop, and though he does not turn in on Fran, he is clearly centre line driving and does not give Fran room even though he has overlap at turn in.
From Norm's cockpit Fran has disappeared and can only be alongside therefore he should be given room by Norm.
Fran has a much narrower entry than he would have liked and so he fights to stay tight but runs wide and contact is inevitable, though it actually occurs near or on the centre line.
Though this is Lap 1 when drivers are asked to take care, had Fran been given room he would have got the move done cleanly.
As both cars moved from their own side of the track, Norm on apporoach and Fran on exit it is a Contested Side by Side contact: Racing Incident

"In a corner, after a legitimate overtaking attempt the cars end up side by side. Both drivers move over instead of staying on their own side of the track. Contact is made.


Server replay time: 0h01m50s

Axel makes a mistake which allows Sky to make a move on him, but once done Sky wipes Axel's nose and should be careful to give Axel more room or risk taking them both out with contact or warp.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h04m50s

Axel rear ends Sky into Esso Bend.
Axel has followed Sky on the previous lap and Sky had approached Esso at the same speed on those laps.
As the Duckhams sign disappears from his view he is doing 102mph on lap 1, 101mph on lap 2 and 102mph on lap 3 when the impact occurs.
His braking point is the same to within a few feet.
As the Shell sign begins to disappear from his view he is doing 79mph on lap 1, 81mph on lap 2 and 78mph on lap3 when the impact occurs.
It is clearly Axel's responsibility to avoid a collision but he fails to do so as on lap 1 as the shell sign begins to disappear from his cockpit view he is doing 79mph on lap 1, 76mph on lap 2 but 91mph on lap 3 when the impact occurs.
For that reason it can only be a Blatant Rear End Shunt: Penalty 2 Places

As Axel recovers he drives across the racing line in front of Nigel Smith who is impeded as he brakes and turns to avoid him.
As Axel is sitting looking back along the track he can see Nigel on the approach and should sit still until Nigel has cleared him.
Inconsiderate Bad Rejoin: Penalty 1 Places
"The rejoining driver was in full control .... Contact was NOT made but other drivers had to take avoiding action.

  • Cookie (Axel Cookie)penalty — Blatant Rear End Shunt — 2 places lost (plus 1 for penalty points)
  • Cookie (Axel Cookie)penalty — Inconsiderate Bad Rejoin — 1 place lost (plus 1 for penalty points)


Server replay time: 0h06m06s

Sky attempts to take a Stop n Go but misses the pit lane and manages to get stuck on the fence.

He resets and then reverses to enter the pit lane where he takes a Stop n Go as planned, then drives 10 yards and takes another.

Thinking he has got away with it he leaves the pit lane and promptly spins. As this doesn't count as taking 2 Stop n Gos, I would add 30 seconds to his race tijme b ut he retired shortly afterwards so it would make no difference if I did.

However, no driver should reverse along the race track, Sky should have continued around and taken a Stop n Go on the following lap rather than reverse on one of the fastest parts of the race track.


Server replay time: 0h18m33s

Economia loses concentration, hits the trees and rips a wheel of before coming to rest across the track.
Paul is approaching and sees the accident happen before slowing but is unable to avoid Economia.
Economia takes a Stop n Go but misses the pit lane and takes it on track.
He should have continued around and taken it on the following lap.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h31m05s

Blito follows Norm through Island Bend, and as Norm runs wide and lifts he closes quickly before having a look up the inside of Esso Bend.
On first glance Norm appears to turn in and cover the inside as Blito makes his move, but Norm usually takes a narrow entry for some reason though not usually this narrow. His loss of control exiting the previous corner may explain his unusual line.
As Blito has no overlap at turn in, he should yield and Norm is free to take his chosen line having won the corner.

"The victim had partially lost control before contact and consequently his line was unusual. The shunter was in full control."

  • blito (Jason Blito)penalty — Simple Rear End Shunt — 1 place lost (plus 2 for penalty points)


Server replay time: 0h33m00s

NHance is recovering to the track at Cascades as Economia approaches under yellow flags.
Economia slows and spots Norm but seems to lose control perhaps expecting Norm to drive straight on to the track.
Norm sticks to the right hand side away from the racing line and still has 2 wheels on the grass but Economia drifts wide off the line and hits him.
Had Ecopnomia not lost control and strayed wide Norm would have recovered cleanly.
had Norm not been recovering Economia may have kept control and not strayed wide.
This incident is wortth watching just to see from Economia's cockpit as Norm enters low earth orbit upside down.

Thinking he has got away with it once, Norm rejoins again, but this time it is in front of Rob who has to slow to avoid him but is braking anyway for the corner. This was very close to being penalised, and had it been on a straight it would have been.

  • Racing incident

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« on: August 20, 2011, 02:10:47 PM +0100 »

UKGPL Season 21 65 Novices Trophy
Race 9 Oulton Park

The penultimate race of the season is at Oulton Park situated near the small village of Little Budworth, Cheshire.  This is quite a narrow track with some long straights and difficult braking areas.  Turn 1 (Old Hall) will be busy on lap 1. There isn't a lot of room and anyone hitting the advertising hoardings on the outside will probably bounce back onto the track so please be careful.  The circuit occupies much of the area which was previously the Oulton Estate. The track is set in the grounds of Oulton Hall.

The circuit was originally developed by the Mid-Cheshire Car Club, with the track attracting crowds of 40,000 during the 1950s. Oulton Park regularly hosted the International Gold Cup event which attracted many Formula One teams (Stirling Moss won it 5 times), but as the F1 calendar shrank to include only Grand Prix events, the Cup became less well-known.  The track is characterised by its rapidly changing gradients and blind crests leading into unforgiving corners. Among many British and foreign drivers it is considered one of the most challenging and thrilling circuits ever constructed.

Download the circuit here

Please see the Novices registration thread for an explanation of the chassis allocations shown below:
http://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=9196.0

FULL TIME
DRIVER  
 CHASSIS  
Billy NoBrakes
BT11
Nigel Smith
Honda
Maddog
Cooper
Il_Lupo
Ferrari
HappyAl
Ferrari
NHance
BT7
Norbert
Ferrarii
Blito
BRM
RogUK
Cooper
BadBlood
Honda
Francesco
Ferrari
Karliss
Cooper
Cookie
Cooper
DuFossa
BT11
Economia
BRM
JonnyO
BT11

RESERVE
DRIVER  
 CHASSIS  
Dave Rainier
Lotus
Maestro
Cooper
Bookie
1
Fragfritz
1
GTA66
1
s2173
BT11
ivandjj
BT11
Rotaxmax125
1
Luked
1

Reserve drivers should not join the server until there are only 30 minutes of qualifying left so as to give the FULL TIME drivers chance to join, and drivers are not to go out on track until there are 30 minutes of qualifying left as this helps all drivers join the server successfully.

Please restrict chat to pit messages if necessary, and this includes the end of the race, until all running drivers have completed the necessary laps.

The Novice races are run under Int Long rules and all incidents will be moderated.

Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL3
IP address = 86.162.0.193
Race date = 23/08/2011
Time = 21:00 UK time
Track = Oulton Park
Variant = 65F1
Damage Model = Int
Qualifying time = 35 minutes
Race length = 24 laps
Password: see above

65 Patch: The 2.02 Release of the 65mod can and should be used.
http://bit.ly/d8dECl

Driver lists can be found on the Novice Championship Page
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« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2011, 01:21:20 PM +0100 »

There are 2 upgrades for this track for better drivability.

I hatet the flickering road after T1 down to T2!!!

Get them here: _http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=250_ (Paul Skingleys update and Remys Asphalt)

I will set my server to this track today  Wink

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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2011, 01:53:34 PM +0100 »

Are these recommended for the server as well Cookie? I need to set UKGPL3 up for the race with a loose grid tomorrow morning.
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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2011, 02:50:17 PM +0100 »

Are these recommended for the server as well Cookie? I need to set UKGPL3 up for the race with a loose grid tomorrow morning.

No!
As far as you don't want to drive on the server yourself Roll Eyes

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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2011, 03:05:17 PM +0100 »

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« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2011, 09:18:31 PM +0100 »

Is the pratice server on? Its just that I can't find in on iGOR and I wanted to check I had got the correct cars set and track
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« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2011, 09:28:12 PM +0100 »


We are without an official Server this week.  I saw no-one on Cookie's Server earlier, so his private session has ended ATM.  This suggests drivers for the race are already good, or might still be bad later! Grin
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« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2011, 11:22:24 AM +0100 »

I've got to get into my loft to get the server running.
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« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2011, 12:14:27 PM +0100 »

What - you keep your servants in the loft?  I say old chap, seems a bit old fashioned ! euro
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« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2011, 12:27:34 PM +0100 »

My sever lives in the living room and was my multimedia center til I stripped it to the essentials Grin

Paul it would be nice to get the track.ini file for a wide grid, or if you have it, the tool for making it Roll Eyes

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« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2011, 01:33:03 PM +0100 »

What - you keep your servants in the loft?  I say old chap, seems a bit old fashioned ! euro

They keep the mice down....

Cookie. I have a 1 x 1 staggered grid setup and it is OK except that positions, 15, 17, 18 and 19 cannot see the flag. Oddly 16 can just see it. They will catch up into T1 anyway.
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« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2011, 01:36:50 PM +0100 »

As you can see UKGPL3 is back...

I will start the server tonight and there is a nice loose grid. The last few places cannot see the flag but you will catch up into T1 and T2.

Please be careful, especially into T2 as it can easily catch you out.
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« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2011, 05:19:51 PM +0100 »

Paul it would be nice to get the track.ini file for a wide grid, or if you have it, the tool for making it Roll Eyes
Here's a note with links I produced re loose grids;
i) Loose Grids
To avoid (or minimise) the chances of a crash fest at the start of a race we use loose online grids. It is the Divisional Moderators responsibility to ensure a loose grid is in place for their races. Where it is an add-on and/or we are doing a fun race you may have to make one from scratch.
For the common tracks they are already out there (we tend to use Paul Jacksons). I have put my collection (134), and the spreadsheet I use, here; http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VR2TJ35Z See also Mike's download at http://www.ukgpl.com/files/Loose_grids.zip
There are various utilities to help you but I happen to find the GPL Grid maker spreadsheet the best for me.
So to produce a loose grid do this;
1) Take a back-up copy of the default track.ini (in case it all goes pear shaped) (located in Sierra/GPL/tracks)
2) Type the data from the track.ini starting grid info into the GPL Grid Maker excel spreadsheet
3) Select 1x1
4) Play with the spacing
5) Paste/replace the starting grid data into the current track.ini (I change the text to 1x1 Vosblod staggered - just so anyone looking will know)
6) Save the updated track.ini
7) Go into GPL and do a full AI qually/race start on accelerated time
8 ) Once the cars take off escape out and review the grid both in car and overhead from each car - make sure the back guy can see the flag / cars are as spaced as possible / cars not too near the edge
9) Make a note of any errors / changes needed and repeat steps (4) to (8 ) until you get it right.
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« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2011, 07:46:26 PM +0100 »

Thanks a lot Tim!

This will solve my problem  Cheesy

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« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2011, 08:00:21 PM +0100 »

Sorry Cookie - missed the point  Roll Eyes

Have a look at the track.ini format - it is pretty easy to set any grid you like. The grid positions are basically just offsets from position 1.

Thanks Tim for sorting us out.
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