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« Reply #30 on: August 26, 2011, 10:26:22 AM +0100 » |
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For those interested here you can find info how it works GPL online and the Bandwith Patch: http://westrab.home.xs4all.nl/gpl.htmOn T7 and GPG servers the BW patch is set to show 3 cars behind and, with a value of 132 on server side, 5 ahead of the clients car so in the client's replay you can see 9 cars total. When we went, for a mistake, to a value of 384, that would show all cars, we experienced a lot of connection and stuttering troubles with a full field on the server. We could stress a bit further with a value of 164 that will show 10 cars around (7+3) and see what happens. With actual setting starting from the back of a full field you'll see 5 cars ahead + the 3 first cars on the grid that you would see on your mirrors if you could Hope it helps Ciao
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« Reply #31 on: August 26, 2011, 11:25:23 AM +0100 » |
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Interesting Fulvio - I took a look at the Rouen and Oulton Park replays out of interest and could never see more than 9 cars in total but cars obviously merge as they pass each other so I wonder if they become one 'object'. The starting point for all this was that Hristo could only see two cars behind on UKGPL3 when I was hosting a BREASTS race last Wednesday. I have amended the patch to draw four maximum and amended the Core.ini to run at 132 (it was 100). When joining via the multiplayer screen, does the client setting take priority? I assume not. I have definitely been in situations on the grid where I can see more than five cars ahead though - in fact seeing lots of cars ahead is my usual situation I guess the question is - "can we bump up the values to give a fuller view" now that we all have faster connections. That would definitely be an issue for something like the Porsche Cup where the field can be bunched for quite a long time. If higher values give more warp though, that would not be good. Also how does the 60fps patch affect things - if the server is still sending out info at the same rate then what is there to draw quicker?
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« Reply #32 on: August 26, 2011, 11:26:41 AM +0100 » |
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It is clear! It should be preferably to race with all the objects you're racing with in sight but...obviously...playability is the first thing to aim otherwise we could have all in sight but warping and freezing a lot that is not what we all would expect from a SIMULATOR If I don't remember bad, already in 2002 when I flew "Aces High", we could have had in sight 64 airplane surrounding us (friends and foes) at the same moment and when we were participating in a bombing range it was spectacular to see a lot of airplanes flying around you, bombers, escort and enemies.
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« Reply #33 on: August 26, 2011, 11:32:45 AM +0100 » |
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I might do better if I turned it down to zero in front, none behind!
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« Reply #34 on: August 26, 2011, 11:36:36 AM +0100 » |
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I'm curious what settings did the UKGPL servers had before we started using Fulvio's. I know it's down to location, connection and hardware as well, but on the UKGPL_5 for instance (which I believe doesn't exist anymore) it was always very stable, very low latency and still could see a lot of cars ahead (and definitely more than 2 or maybe even more than 3 in the mirrors).
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« Reply #35 on: August 26, 2011, 11:51:01 AM +0100 » |
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It could be a real problem the case in which a pilot should have 3 or 4 chasers that whispers in his neck because each one should be popping up from the Hiperspace beside the car or in the mirror without any clue and this could be catastrophic.
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« Reply #36 on: August 26, 2011, 12:24:49 PM +0100 » |
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I doubt you've driven on a GPL server that draws more than 3-4 cars in the mirrors at the same time. For sake of having low latency servers don't run on maximum bandwidth settings, but also not on the minimum (1-2 in mirrors), so the idea is to find a good compromise.
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« Reply #37 on: August 26, 2011, 10:03:02 PM +0100 » |
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......at Eau Rouge on Lap 1 ......... kicked of by ............ Was really looking forward to this race! Cu at Daytona. Greetings Pedro
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« Reply #38 on: August 26, 2011, 10:06:56 PM +0100 » |
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THX a lot to G.Sutcliff or whatever his name is. He must be blind , chrashed me out in T1 while I was taken care on the car in front of me , which was allready on the green . Whats so complicated on ? : `take care at T1 during first lap´ well , my car stranded behind the leftside armco and I had to drove in wrong direction to get back on track .. got DQ from server for that .. shouldnt checkpoints been disabled ? exactly what I was looking for after an week with hard work allover , great stuff. pitty enough I had absolutely no time for practise , due too real work , but been stranded that way is so.....
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« Reply #39 on: August 26, 2011, 10:16:02 PM +0100 » |
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checkpoints have nothing to do with your DQ, if you reverse on track you get DQ .
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« Reply #40 on: August 26, 2011, 10:19:49 PM +0100 » |
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not happy lap 1 for mee too.. involved in same 3 cars avoidable normal race accident as Pedro... fortunately car was not damageg so I was still in race although with already 10s of gap from driver behind... my race was over when I made a face to face with a driver doing parking operations on top of Rouge..
it's a pity.. Spa deserves a better race.. it was fun tille there
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« Reply #41 on: August 26, 2011, 10:29:45 PM +0100 » |
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I have to apologize to Hristo for the incident I've caused involving also him at the stavelot corner entry. I didn't se him behind and beside so I've tried to change direction to a better line for the corner entry but he was already in that place and so I've hit him loosing a wheel and so causing him to loose at least 10 secs (I think), AMEN!
No other things to say only...my mistake.
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« Reply #42 on: August 26, 2011, 10:38:44 PM +0100 » |
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Yes Nicky, checkpoints were disabled and like Juha says, you would be DQ for your manouvre anyway.
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« Reply #43 on: August 26, 2011, 11:24:50 PM +0100 » |
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If the server DQ's you you won't show up in the results but you can always continue and save your client replay and let the Mods decide if the DQ was deserved or not.
T1 carnage handed me several places and then Fran got by and that was the last I saw of anyone (except for a stranded Clouds). Lonely but OK. Drove for a finish but could have given up after 5 laps...
Was hoping that Goran and Andreas might crash as they passed me... but no.
Hristo caught me at the worst possible place - hope I didn't make it too bad mate but I find that corner the hardest on the track.
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« Reply #44 on: August 27, 2011, 11:50:34 AM +0100 » |
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checkpoints have nothing to do with your DQ, if you reverse on track you get DQ ak ok . did know that , thx for info . If the server DQ's you you won't show up in the results but you can always continue and save your client replay and let the Mods decide if the DQ was deserved or not.
did tried that for one lap but wasnt sure if the server would simply disconnect me after a period of time. well and anyhow me engine wasnt on full power anymore after that chrash ( couldnt hardly get into 5th gear .. ) But good to know that it is up to the moderators if DQ or not . thx too for this info. dont forget to watch F1 on TV today kindly rgeards calmed down Nicky .lol
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