UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Le Mans (Sarthe) - Sep 4

[Geoff65]

Blimey, I thought my deodorant had failed and everyone had skipped out. Bloody big lonely place to drive around on your own too.......Mercifully, the engine gave up on lap 19 and dropped a cylinder.....just allowing me to complete the lap. Another 8 laps chugging about would have been purgatory. Bad luck for the mass disco, and not how I like to win races.
I was in that lap 2 shunt at the end of Mulsanne Phil. Whistled down the inside, passing a few cars on the way.......braking well and going to make the corner easily......then got axe murdered from behind by, I figure, a disgruntled pass-ee.
UPDATE Apparently Mr Hunt set the carnage in motion by wandering about under brakes INSIDE the braking zone,     and shortening Steve Bird's available braking distance by the length of a Ford GT40. And well, we all saw the rest. After we all got going again, bits of it were fun with a bit of controlled passing and the odd dice.....Holding Evil behind me in his howling Porka was a full time job, sorry about the stuff-up at Tetre Rouge Evil.....put us both on our lids and it ruined a fun dice, requiring a reset and 10 seconds of thinking music for me. Ruined my race as it was solo flying from then on except when FMG lapped me, until I exited as THE last competitor standing. To the post mortem and ritual dissection of the server I suppose.

The first rolling lap and subsequent start worked brilliantly at least as far back as me in the #9 slot. We all kept together, and I even almost had the chance of a crack at Steve in T1.....
but thought better of it eg cold tyres, big fat fuel load etc. Surprisingly though, the 2D was quite stable and comfortable to drive on full fuel. Really enjoyed driving it this time, it just struggled a little for top speed, though I noticed Hristo's 2F was only matching my 198-199mph solo along Mulsanne, so I guess it wasn't doing too badly.

[maddog]

Thanks for the preliminary results Paul.  I'm a non-Prib member, and hadn't sorted my pitboard, so was doing this endurance in the dark.  But would it be fairer to score the race, from the moment the magnificent seven,  were forceably removed?

[fpolicardi]

I think we can summarize this:
After FMG crossed the line of 16th lap he was discoed/freezed (?) and so all the others were discoed apart Geoff, Steve and Hendy. Me and Clive could continue but were lost from results. A lap later Clive was disco. Steve and Hendy crashed/freezed later and when Geoff retired at 20th lap I got the PitIn message on the pitboard. So it wasn't an issue with the race setting (too long), cause the server would have gone on if Geoff hadn't retired.
I ask myself if it wasn't a connection problem for those on a certain route to the server, Geoff is downunder and me in the Beautiful Country   , I don't know where Steve and Hendy are from.
Ciao

[Hristo Itchov]

Makes the points table look a bit funny.

The Red Team doesn't mind. 

[Geoff65]

I think we can summarize this:
After FMG crossed the line of 16th lap he was discoed/freezed (?) and so all the others were discoed apart Geoff, Steve and Hendy. Me and Clive could continue but were lost from results. A lap later Clive was disco. Steve and Hendy crashed/freezed later and when Geoff retired at 20th lap I got the PitIn message on the pitboard. So it wasn't an issue with the race setting (too long), cause the server would have gone on if Geoff hadn't retired.
I ask myself if it wasn't a connection problem for those on a certain route to the server, Geoff is downunder and me in the Beautiful Country  , I don't know were Steve and Hendy are from.
Ciao

I noticed from my replay Fulvio, you and Clive were lapping.....but the server didn't count you after lap 16. Very odd.

[Cookie]

Yes, this was very frustrating...

I just made a post in the SRMZ forum about this track. Hope it will be fixed soon.

It was a real fun race for me with great moments and close racing.
Had maximum fun with Samb who suddenly disappeared. Hope it wasn't me who caused it?

[BadBlood]

So what you are saying, Fulvio, is that Geoff voluntarily retired and you finished a couple of laps to take the win...  

I would propose that we reconstruct a couple of drivers based on the fact that the server lost track of them (Clive, Fulvio) and let the rest stand.

Disco's are hugely frustrating but part of life and although it is HUGELY harsh on Tim in particular I certainly don't fancy a re-run! We did also make half distance so precedent suggests that the race result stands.

Modifying Clive's entry would promote him to fifth behind Tim and Fulvio would be first or second dependent on his relative position to Geoff (I think he was ahead...)

They would be the only ones modified as they actually ran longer than the server results suggest whereas all other drivers were dropped where the race result says they finished.

Thoughts?

[fpolicardi]

I think it would more fair if we get the results when Tim crossed last time the s/f line at 16th lap so all get their right position. After that there was a mass disco and only 3 drivers were counted.
Ciao

[Hristo Itchov]

I think it would more fair if we get the results when Tim crossed last time the s/f line at 16th lap so all get their right position. After that there was a mass disco and only 3 drivers were counted.
Ciao

I was thinking the same, it would be similar to real F1 where they take the result from a lap before or more in case a race had to be cut short.

[maddog]

Meanwhile, back at the track - Geoff's finger pointing may be right. I've not raced a GT40 'til now.  It's straight line speed is such, I'd assumed the pack was further back, and changed lanes under braking.  Rear view at high speed is virtually nonexistent in these.  So what is it, Benny Hill said about, "Never assume?" If so, sorry lads!

After restoring the horizontal, I determined to stay out of trouble, and settled in, for the long haul.  Cruising along, mid-race, I was starting to reel in the fact, we were re-living history.  Our cars being just slightly pre-Mcqueen, and part of a golden era - and we were racing around the track they were built for. (sans Porsche)  Whereupon, I suddenly found myself inspecting the rear of a sandbank, at Indianapolis, followed rapidly by an escape road at the very next apex, preferring to avoid a sandy end!  I would not have been comfortable with a sandy end!  Nor with a cut short race.  

Having regained my focus, it was with great disappointment, I realized our lives had all been, so tragically cut short.  

[Cookie]

I think it would more fair if we get the results when Tim crossed last time the s/f line at 16th lap so all get their right position. After that there was a mass disco and only 3 drivers were counted.
Ciao

I was thinking the same, it would be similar to real F1 where they take the result from a lap before or more in case a race had to be cut short.

I would vote to this solution too!

PS Ginetto just answered my post at SRMZ

No news for Le Mans Sarthe; I didn't know about it giving problems :idunno:

[BadBlood]

I am pretty sure I was the next car over the line after Tim crossed the sixteenth time. Can I claim second?

Very doable and reasonable solution.

I will post a 'pseudo' results board here when I get home tonight. Then it is up to Clive.

[Samb]

Yes, this was very frustrating...

I just made a post in the SRMZ forum about this track. Hope it will be fixed soon.

It was a real fun race for me with great moments and close racing.
Had maximum fun with Samb who suddenly disappeared. Hope it wasn't me who caused it?

No no Axel, my off was completely my own doing. Before that happened I was really enjoying that scrap. The Chapp may have masses of power but goodness it was clumsy through the corners  . I had to reset after clouting a tree and didn't have a stopwatch handy, so probably did a 12-15 second stop  . It was quite a dull drive after that, and eventually I braked too late into Indianapolis and beached myself on the sand, race over.

A shame to end the sports cars in such a way but I've really enjoyed this season. I hope we can feature the sports cars in S21. Thanks to everyone in UKGPL for making this happen 

[Raoni Frizzo]

Hi all!

I saw Cookie's post about the massive discos you all had at Le Mans during this weekend. To be honest, I never drove a league race at Le Mans to say if it has a severe problem, but in GPL Brasil we do races using the night version of the track since 2008 (we used it already 4 times) and we never had that kind of problem.

The night version is as good as the daily version about field of view, although with the dark sky. I recommend you a try, because it seems that the night version is more stable, although I don't know why

[BadBlood]

Thanks Raoni.