UKGPL Season 21 (2011) GT - Le Mans (Sarthe) - Sep 4

[Cookie]

Are you asking about Core.ini settings of the server or the clients?

Yes Fulvio, I know, your server did nothing wrong

This was an answer to Geoffs post

Maybe in his core.ini is a secret why he did not disco, being the one with the longest way to server and highest ping 

[Hristo Itchov]

Evil, have you decided what to do with the results yet?

[BadBlood]

Yeah Paul, that's exactly what I thought the problem might have been. That, coupled with the asynchronous modulation of the sine wave and the contra-rotation of the earth on Sundays. 

Glad it was clear

[Geoff65]

[ Communications ]
alternate_ip_addr_lookup=1                  ; Find IP addresses another way  0 = No alternate lookup *  1 = Use alternate way
bcast_augment_status=0                      ; Prepend status with IP address?
bcast_listserv=                               ; IP address of race list server
bcast_listserv_req=                           ; Empty string, or start with '?'
bcast_listserv_req_freq=10.000000           ; Request race list frequency
bcast_ping_disable=0                        ; Disable response to pings
bcast_ping_port=0                           ; Ping port number (0=default)
bcast_port=0                                ; Broadcast port number (0=default)
bcast_recv_disable=0                        ; Disable broadcast reception
bcast_send_disable=0                        ; Disable sending broadcasts
bcast_send_freq=4.000000                    ; Broadcast frequency (seconds)
clock_adj_delay=8                           ; How often may client adjust clock?  Only used when synch_method = 0 (see [ Tasks ]) original=4  in version 1.1 
disable_ipx=0                               ; Disable IPX support
disable_modem=0                             ; Don't look for/use modems
disable_network=0                           ; Disable network support
disable_tcp_ip=0                            ; Disable TCP/IP support
ignore_net_read_errors=1                    ; Don't disco if error reading pkt
ignore_net_send_errors=1                    ; Don't disco if error sending pkt
ip_addr_lookup_timeout=2                    ; Timeout to find own IP address. Default = 2 sec.
log_server_comm_errors=0                    ; Log errors for client channels?
log_server_connect_status=0                 ; Issue messages as clients connect
mem_client_send_every=1                     ; Client packet freq via memory
mem_client_send_size=276                    ; Client packet size via memory
mem_server_send_every=1                     ; Server packet freq via memory
mem_server_send_size=516                    ; Server packet size via memory
net_lan_client_send_every=2                 ; Client packet freq on LAN
net_lan_client_send_size=132                ; Client packet size on LAN
net_lan_server_send_every=2                 ; Server packet freq on LAN
net_lan_server_send_size=388                ; Server packet size on LAN
net_mdm_client_send_every = 3                ; Client packet freq on dialup
net_mdm_client_send_size = 84                ; Client packet size on dialup
net_mdm_server_send_every = 3                 ; Server packet freq on dialup
net_mdm_server_send_size = 384               ; Server packet size on dialup
net_server_port=0                             ; Server port number (0 = default)
net_use_mdm_bandwidth_for_tcp_ip=1            ; Use modem bandwidthfor TCP/IP - 1 = Use net_mdm_ settings *
;net_use_mdm_bandwidth_for_tcp_ip=0            ; Use modem bandwidthfor IPX    - 0 = Use net_lan_ settings


my core.ini as it stands.

[jhalli]

looks like standard core.ini, i have same and i guess most of us too.

Juha

[EvilClive]

The numerous discos in this race left me with a real dilemma over what to do.

I had hoped that this final race in the first ever GT championship in UKGPL would have been a bit special. It was to have been 50% longer than all the previous races and at a circuit that is surely the true "home" of GT racing I was hoping that we would get a real buzz and feel for the "Le Mans" fever.

Things started well enough and even the rolling start seemed to evoke some real atmosphere. Just as in real life, the bigger faster cars shot away into the distance as soon as we hit Mulsanne and it seems they paid the usual price at Mulsanne corner on the 1st lap where there was a coming together of epic proportions. From then on the race developed into several smaller battles as cars and drivers sorted themselves out and I found things very enjoyable even in my Porsche. I had hoped that the longer race length might have shown up the frailty of some of the more powerful cars towards the end of the race and that might have added an extra spice to the mix.
Unfortunately we never got to find out if there would have been any mechanical retirements as the IT gremlins intervened and disco'd more than half of the racers.

This happened just after half distance and I have thought long and hard about what I should do about it.

Because the majority of the discos happened after half way our rules do not insist on calling this a "void" race.
I suspect that even if we arranged a re-run, we would not wish to do it on the same circuit and not all drivers would be able/willing to take part. That would make any new result somewhat artificial.
To allow the result to stand as the server recorded the race seems to be grossly unfair on all those who were disconnected, but we have always had discos in GPL and we only consider a re-run if the mass disco happens on Lap 1.

Therefore I am going to let the result stand exactly as the race finished on the server. It is harsh on those who were denied a chance to race to the finish, but our rules really do not allow for races to be re scheduled simply because several drivers were disco'd. If we amend this result we set a precedent for future events where maybe 3-4 drivers are disco'd and call for a re-race because we did it here, and that could affect an awful lot of races.

The results as published stand subject to moderation, which will follow in a few days now that the decision over the result has been made.

[BadBlood]

I've updated the teams so the Points table looks a little better. Especially for Red GT whose drivers finished 1st, 2nd and ... 14th <ahem> in the individual table (which doesn't count, of course).

[fpolicardi]

Clive, what about those that weren't discoed and only lost from results like me and you and still running when Geoff retired and server showed the chequered flag? What are the rules about? I know I'm lazy to search 

[fpolicardi]

Sry Juha, I hadn't seen your reply.
I get your point, but I think that single disco/freeze that occurs at any track weren't never take in account by mods, as Hristo said.
We're speaking of 9 drivers discoed and 2 drivers lost by the server results at the same time out of 14 drivers on track at the moment.
Anyway Clive has already posted his decision and it will regret it for the rest oh his years  
Ciao

I think it would more fair if we get the results when Tim crossed last time the s/f line at 16th lap so all get their right position. After that there was a mass disco and only 3 drivers were counted.
Ciao

no this is only fair to those drivers who was able to race till "mass disco" , not fair at all for drivers who discoed or have screen freezes before "mass disco" and this all is happening because track have disco issues. Should you just say to these drivers it was just a bad luck and please look forward ?

i recommend re -race with another track that is known " no problem track"

[fpolicardi]

Clive, what about those that weren't discoed and only lost from results like me and you and still running when Geoff retired and server showed the chequered flag? What are the rules about? I know I'm lazy to search 

Find it: https://www.ukgpl.com/index.php/rules/sporting
I know, I haven't better to do today...
 

[BadBlood]

Clive can, at his discretion, ask me to look at the replay and adjust the finishing position of anyone who was 'lost'. I believe that is you and Clive. Server owner and moderator - hmmm. Can't see anyone moaning about that

[jhalli]

Sry Juha, I hadn't seen your reply.
I get your point, but I think that single disco/freeze that occurs at any track weren't never take in account by mods, as Hristo said.
We're speaking of 9 drivers discoed and 2 drivers lost by the server results at the same time out of 14 drivers on track at the moment.
Anyway Clive has already posted his decision and it will regret it for the rest oh his years  
Ciao

I think it would more fair if we get the results when Tim crossed last time the s/f line at 16th lap so all get their right position. After that there was a mass disco and only 3 drivers were counted.
Ciao

no this is only fair to those drivers who was able to race till "mass disco" , not fair at all for drivers who discoed or have screen freezes before "mass disco" and this all is happening because track have disco issues. Should you just say to these drivers it was just a bad luck and please look forward ?

i recommend re -race with another track that is known " no problem track"

no i dont mean you should take accounts single drivers discoes ,btw i very rarely have disco issues and screen freezes ,  i mean moderators should look the race as a its entirety, and ask "was this good racing? " no i think, i just dont see any good points and no good racing when over 50% of drivers have disconnected because track have issues, honestly this is the race that should count at all ,mean points.



Juha

[Hristo Itchov]

I'm still for the idea of using the classification on the last completed lap before the mass disco and hand out half points (something like Monaco 84 or Adelaide 91).

[BadBlood]

That is quite difficult to accomplish with LM2 set up the way it is. The race result can be adjusted but the points are fixed per position I believe. Although this is unsatisfactory it needs a re-run really but as the last race of the season I don't think many drivers would pitch up for it, especially as the series has been decided.

[Hristo Itchov]

That is quite difficult to accomplish with LM2 set up the way it is. The race result can be adjusted but the points are fixed per position I believe. Although this is unsatisfactory it needs a re-run really but as the last race of the season I don't think many drivers would pitch up for it, especially as the series has been decided.

I think the biggest demotivating factor for a rerun is "GP distance race at Le Mans Sarthe".  If it had been another track and shorter distance, it would have probably been OK, but with this... yawn.