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« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2018, 11:59:38 AM +0100 » |
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Was quite comfortable after a few laps with the slow gordini but was getting unconcentrated after 12 Laps and got stuck into the hay T1. Coudln't get free and only three laps more for a classification...
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« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2018, 12:24:59 PM +0100 » |
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Did anyone else get a screen freeze? I was basically cruising along in 2nd spot after Mr Loynes had eased away in his Maserati by half way and I had a similar gap back to Tim and his turbo enhanced Gordini. Then, as I approached the tight hairpin at the far end of the circuit ...everything froze and I had the Ctrl-Alt-Del to crash out of GPL withjust 2 laps left to go.
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« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2018, 12:40:32 PM +0100 » |
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I was test driving this mod and there were beta versions with more brake left under red! I do never compare them to 67s, but we had a feedback of a RL Mercedes mechanic, who confirmed that these cars never had problems with the brakes, you can see the big cooling brake drums they used... Those drum brakes were racing brakes and not drum brakes of american street cars Agreed, and that's my feeling. They should not build up heat so quickly neither should they retain the heat for so long. But as always I acknowledge the research carried out by the mod teams and am happy to accept it even though it doesn't feel quite right to me. I guess it's just such a big step from what we are used to. TTFN John. You and Axel are probably quite correct. But we have what we have and there is no point in driving the cars the way that they "should" be. I have no experience of how these cars behaved and I never shall. You have to play them as you find them. The very clever people who knit these mods together have made it more difficult. Fair enough. On the other hand you don't die when you get the Masta Kink wrong. Is that wrong too? The "gods" who actually drove these cars only ever got to make one mistake in all their practice, qualifying and race laps. In GPL we are immortal, so is it not fair to impose some sort of restraint on our ability to go flat out at everything?
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« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2018, 01:30:12 PM +0100 » |
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Of course you are right Clive, we have to use what we got... But I have made my decision to race these cars only on tracks that suit them imo
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« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2018, 03:40:56 PM +0100 » |
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Of course you are right Clive, we have to use what we got... But I have made my decision to race these cars only on tracks that suit them imo LOL I race on whatever the season demands. I've even been known to race at Nurburgring if I absolutely have no other choice! But what do you mean by suits it? Surely you don't want it dumbed down to 65mod level all the time?
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« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2018, 04:30:26 PM +0100 » |
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Did anyone else get a screen freeze? I was basically cruising along in 2nd spot after Mr Loynes had eased away in his Maserati by half way and I had a similar gap back to Tim and his turbo enhanced Gordini. Then, as I approached the tight hairpin at the far end of the circuit ...everything froze and I had the Ctrl-Alt-Del to crash out of GPL withjust 2 laps left to go. That was tough, and it resulted in Tim not getting his full set of 3rd places too! I don't think that anyone else had a freeze or anything like. Fulvio had a strange car "lock up" where his car suddenly thought it was a Honda and veered off the track for no apparent reason! I've done a lot of races and both on and off-line running and never had an issue.
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« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2018, 04:36:26 PM +0100 » |
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I prefer to race with a car I can handle and I have not to fight with abnormal brake fade... I said 10% more braking left! Not Thundercars... My favourite cars are the Sport Cars of 1967, I hope we will get the refurbished X version soon The track seemed to have no bugs from my side.
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« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2018, 08:13:24 PM +0100 » |
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That was tough, and it resulted in Tim not getting his full set of 3rd places too!
I'll take 2nd - I need all the points I can get when we start on the twistier tracks. I was only able to brake 2.5 times a lap (Hence my comparatively early braking - sorry Jeep) and even that would sometimes cause brake failure if I'd carried a little more speed than usual somewhere... Aintree is going to be VERY hard in the T16....
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« Reply #23 on: July 02, 2018, 08:44:28 PM +0100 » |
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Aintree is going to be VERY hard in the T16....
Pleased to hear it. I was using the brakes in four places, two heavy and two less so. I find that a short stab is better than gentle application over a long period. That just heats them up.
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« Reply #24 on: July 02, 2018, 10:23:58 PM +0100 » |
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I've loaded the chassis the drivers used into the token calculator spreadsheet. For the next race the available tokens will be as declared in the table below (the table will also appear in the next race announcement). The calculated values are automated but selecting the cars is a manual process so please check your tokens to make sure I haven't made a silly error. There was no token overspend for this round so no one is disqualified. Available Tokens:Note: These are the tokens available to each driver before the 10 tokens are added for making the race start. Driver | Tokens | Status | bagrupp | 17 | Pro | Clive Loynes | 20 | Pro | Doni Yourth | 30 | Pro | EvilClive | 13 | Pro | fpolicardi | 8 | Am | francesco | 15 | Am | Phil Thornton | 15 | Am | DLogan | 16 | Am | Gareth | 20 | Am | Jeep | 12 | Am | Uli | 8 | Pro | FullMetalGasket | 50 | Pro | Will Tway | 10 | Pro | Baab | 18 | Am | Cookie | 10 | Pro | Samb | 10 | Pro |
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« Reply #25 on: July 17, 2018, 12:05:03 AM +0100 » |
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« Reply #26 on: July 17, 2018, 08:37:36 AM +0100 » |
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Aintree is going to be VERY hard in the T16....
Pleased to hear it. I was using the brakes in four places, two heavy and two less so. I find that a short stab is better than gentle application over a long period. That just heats them up. Brakes are for wimps anyway! Only 2 braking points for me at Parabolica and into Lesmo 1, anywhere else was a downshift and a quick flick of the steering to provoke a drift through the apex. TBH I totally forgot about the brake fade issue because I had as much retardation as I could use whenever I wanted it........but Aintree WILL be very different.
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« Reply #27 on: July 17, 2018, 08:50:19 AM +0100 » |
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Aintree is going to be VERY hard in the T16....
Pleased to hear it. I was using the brakes in four places, two heavy and two less so. I find that a short stab is better than gentle application over a long period. That just heats them up. Brakes are for wimps anyway! Only 2 braking points for me at Parabolica and into Lesmo 1, anywhere else was a downshift and a quick flick of the steering to provoke a drift through the apex. TBH I totally forgot about the brake fade issue because I had as much retardation as I could use whenever I wanted it........but Aintree WILL be very different. Get mable to make you another coffee there Evil. You are talking about the wrong track! To continue your Monza theme, I needed brakes at three places in the SL. You probably saw the tyre smoke on the approach to Curva Grande. Damn thing weighs so much that I couldn't get enough turning effect from the tyres to keep it out of the Armco without a dab of brakes and a downshift.
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« Reply #28 on: July 17, 2018, 09:20:21 AM +0100 » |
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oops! nurse has not administered my morning medication yet
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« Reply #29 on: July 17, 2018, 09:41:29 AM +0100 » |
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oops! nurse has not administered my morning medication yet LOL Poor old bugger. Just sit quietly for a while.
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