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July 30, 2013, 10:36:02 PM +0100 - Monaco (1929-71) - UKGPL Season 25 (2013) Professionals Trophy (65)
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
MagicArsouille
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 1 1:28.196
79.742mph
1 44:47.733
78.500mph
30 1:28.527
79.443mph
Dunlop  
Ronniepeterson
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 3 +0.266
79.502mph
2 +4.359
78.373mph
30 1:28.613
79.366mph
Dunlop  
DLogan
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 4 +1.187
78.683mph
3 +47.949
77.124mph
30 1:29.577
78.512mph
Goodyear  
G Jonsson
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 6 +1.777
78.167mph
4 +55.534
76.911mph
30 1:30.398
77.799mph
Goodyear  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 8 +1.884
78.074mph
5 +1:03.403
76.691mph
30 1:30.345
77.845mph
Dunlop  
francesco
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 10 +5.210
75.294mph
6 (+1) +2L
72.836mph
28 1:33.934
74.871mph
Dunlop  
natan5
 NVRacing
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 5 +1.198
78.673mph
7 +18L
74.998mph
12 1:30.416
77.784mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Clutch4
 Mountside Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 9 +3.931
76.339mph
8 +25L
74.407mph
5 1:31.485
76.875mph
Disco
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 2 +0.127
79.627mph
9 +29L
74.658mph
1 1:33.269
75.404mph
accident
Goodyear  
NHance
 Mountside Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 7 +1.882
78.076mph
10 +30L
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accident
Goodyear  
UKGPL 8
 
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 11 11 DNS ---
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Dunlop  

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Generally clean


Server replay time: 0h01m51s

Norm is slow out of Portier allowing Clutch and Fran to pass. Fran cuts back a fraction too early and Norm is out.

Fran needed to leave more room.

The rules have this: "On a straight, the overtaking car moves out to overtake but cuts back in too early. The victim made no mistakes and was driving their normal line at normal speed. The shunter made no allowance for the victim whatsoever and was in full control when the incident took place. There was no loss of control. Penalty for overtaking driver."

This attracts a two place penalty which is too severe for such a marginal misjudgement. Penalty is reduced but this is lap 1 so it gets back a place.

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« on: July 25, 2013, 05:54:19 PM +0100 »

UKGPL Season 25 - Pro Trophy - Race 2 - Monaco  

Monaco, it’s a Papyrus original and well known if not well liked by some drivers...

As the senior division with the best drivers, drivers have a free chassis choice.
Once a chassis is selected, a driver should stay in that chassis for ALL races.
There will be no other handicapping for this series.

There will be full moderation of lap one Red Zone and reported incidents for the rest of the race.
Please submit incident reports within a week after the race so that the moderators report may be out before the next race.
Full time drivers have priority access to the server until 21.00 UK time.

Please restrict chat to pit messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.


Division Moderator =   Badblood
Race List =   IGOR
Server = UKGPL_8
IP Address = tba
Race date = 30-07-2013
Qualification Time   = ~20:45  UK time -> 30-45 min
Race Time = race starts at 21:30 UK time
Track = Monaco (Papy)
Variant = 65F1 the 2.02 Release of the 65mod should be used
Damage Model = PRO
Race length = ~50 min -> 30 laps
RED ZONE = from race start to the exit of the Portier righthander before the tunnel
Password = see above
Replay = you will get here
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« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2013, 01:25:45 PM +0100 »

What like me of this division is the fact that the race are not too long Grin.14 laps at Moltecarlo are the right number.
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« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2013, 02:13:10 PM +0100 »

LOL, yes thanks, I forgot to change...

30 laps are more dignified for the Pros Roll Eyes
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« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2013, 03:16:08 PM +0100 »

30 laps & 15 turns. 450 opportunities for an early visit to the tip top.  Grin
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« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2013, 06:31:33 PM +0100 »

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30 laps are more dignified for the Pros Roll Eyes
Axel,is not honest to do this. Grin
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« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2013, 12:59:29 AM +0100 »

Unfortunately I'll miss this race but i'll be back for the rest. Good luck guys!
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« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2013, 12:27:30 PM +0100 »

eeeek! Monaco again!! but in 65's this time.

I have barely recovered from Sunday's exertions  Shocked
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« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2013, 07:23:12 PM +0100 »

Sorry, gonna miss this one as well.

See you next round.
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« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2013, 08:54:55 AM +0100 »

This division is really to hard for me.Seem to race against aliens.Comparing my best lap with one good Axel's lap ,i'm surprised to see that the main difference is not the speed in curve but the top speed before and after St devote.Seem the problem of the Ferrari 2013, the traction exiting from a curve.The top speed after the tunnel is ok.
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« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2013, 09:46:01 AM +0100 »

Well at least you finished Francesco. My (team)mate Clutch had trouble logging on to UKGPL on & cannot see the race details . In the end I texted him the password so he had very little qually time.  Cookie was faster off the line (everyone is Smiley) & Clutch passed me when I went wide after Portier which I didn't mind but then Francesco followed him through at the same time!!! ::)Then I detached the front wheel at the harbour chicane. Once again failed to complete a lap.

On behalf of Clutch has anyone any ideas why he can't see the race details?
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« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2013, 11:29:26 AM +0100 »

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Well at least you finished Francesco

Well ,is the only way for me to gain point.I apply the condor tactics,i wait until the opponent go out of the track but this tactics was vain with Axel. Grin
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« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2013, 12:52:21 PM +0100 »

I think I win the shortest race prize? Ronnie was quicker off the grid and snatched 2nd place into St Devote and although I was able to stick to his tail pipes I was expecting a long race just waiting for a chance to sneak through.
As a plan that was OK, but it all went wrong on the 2nd lap when I got too excited with the gear shift exiting Portier and ripped it off the desk!!! scared In the resulting confusion I clipped the wall and lost a wheel. A quick review of the situation and it was decided that I would probably not survive another 28 laps on 3 wheels......so I retired. Roll Eyes

Grats to the podium and finishers and I hope my mechanical modifications at Portier did not cause any problems for anyone.

Fran . At Monaco there is no long straight, so your gear ratios need to be very exact. You want the max acceleration out of the hairpins BUT very little wheelspin and you need to be able to get on the power as early as possible out of the slow corners. It is your exit speed from the last corner that will determine the top speed that you can achieve along the S/F straight. I find that it is easy to go into St Devote too fast and fight the car losing speed all the time, but if you slow a little earlier and really pick your apex ( to just miss the kerb on the inside as you go up the hill) you can get on the power early and really nail the gas up the slope. The Ferrari certainly has enough power to be quick and I find that it delivers that power very smoothly, which should make it ideal around a twisty track like Monaco?


Well at least you finished Francesco. My (team)mate Clutch had trouble logging on to UKGPL on & cannot see the race details . In the end I texted him the password so he had very little qually time.  Cookie was faster off the line (everyone is Smiley) & Clutch passed me when I went wide after Portier which I didn't mind but then Francesco followed him through at the same time!!! ::)Then I detached the front wheel at the harbour chicane. Once again failed to complete a lap.

On behalf of Clutch has anyone any ideas why he can't see the race details?
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It just might be that he has ticked/unticked one of the boxes below the server list that decides which servers are shown ?

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 he does not have ( or IGOR does not think that he has) the correct mod installed?

About all I can suggest I'm afraid as I am not an expert on these things.
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« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2013, 01:01:16 PM +0100 »

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Fran . At Monaco there is no long straight, so your gear ratios need to be very exact. You want the max acceleration out of the hairpins BUT very little wheelspin and you need to be able to get on the power as early as possible out of the slow corners. It is your exit speed from the last corner that will determine the top speed that you can achieve along the S/F straight. I find that it is easy to go into St Devote too fast and fight the car losing speed all the time, but if you slow a little earlier and really pick your apex ( to just miss the kerb on the inside as you go up the hill) you can get on the power early and really nail the gas up the slope. The Ferrari certainly has enough power to be quick and I find that it delivers that power very smoothly, which should make it ideal around a twisty track like Monaco?
Thank you for the suggestion.I try to apply this in the next race with the 66.
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« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2013, 03:25:09 PM +0100 »

Grats to Tristan and Dean ; commiserations to Clive.

After the previous F2 race at Monaco I knew that a good start would be required to ensure I was in the mix again for the Pro race. I got the start I wanted and snatched second. Lucky for me but unlucky for Clive he had problems early on so I settled down and slowly built up my speed to try and catch Tristan. I got him back in sight and was closing towards the end but a combination of Tristan simply upping his game again, me trying too hard and traffic just when I did not need it..... and the laps had run out and the race was over.

I cannot believe we are heading back again in the 66's for more punishment....see you there!
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« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2013, 03:51:49 PM +0100 »

the race was ok
clives retirement live me in strong 3 d place but not for long !
until dean find my rears and kick me out .
another vesting race .
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