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January 28, 2014, 10:56:15 PM +0000 - Le Mans (Sarthe (1932-67)) - UKGPL Season 26 (2014) Historic Trophy (66)
Driver
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Tom van Ostade
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 1 3:28.756
144.262mph
1 52:55.949
142.236mph
15 3:29.777
143.560mph
Firestone  
MagicArsouille
 
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 2 +0.139
144.166mph
2 +57.888
139.690mph
15 3:29.882
143.488mph
Firestone  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Honda RA273 F1 1966 12 +6.650
139.808mph
3 +59.614
139.615mph
15 3:33.212
141.247mph
Goodyear  
maddog
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 8 +5.143
140.793mph
4 +1:17.319
138.855mph
15 3:32.479
141.734mph
Firestone  
AnGex
 Black Night Racing
Cooper T81 (Maserati) F1 1966 11 +6.294
140.040mph
5 +1:47.316
137.587mph
15 3:35.263
139.901mph
Firestone  
Turkey Machine
 HikiWazaRacing
BRM P83 F1 1966 9 +5.404
140.622mph
6 +3L
141.227mph
12 3:29.887
143.485mph
accident
Goodyear  
francesco
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 10 +6.186
140.110mph
7 (+3) +11L
132.584mph
4 3:38.835
137.618mph
Disco
Firestone  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 3 +0.963
143.600mph
8 +15L
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0 ---
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accident
Firestone  
Flow
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 4 +1.878
142.976mph
9 (+3)
---
0 ---
---
Disco
Firestone  
DLogan
 
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 6 +2.714
142.411mph
10
---
0 ---
---
Disco
Firestone  
Ronniepeterson
 
Brabham BT19 (Repco) F1 1966 7 +4.865
140.977mph
11
---
0 ---
---
Disco
Goodyear  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 5 +2.407
142.618mph
12
---
0 ---
---
Disco
Firestone  
BadBlood
 Blue Moose Racing
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1966) F1 1966 14 13
---
0 ---
---
accident
Goodyear  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 13 14 DNS ---
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Firestone  

Moderator's Report

Two accidents on the 1st lap and the 1st turn...
The race could have been very funny on such a track, unfortunately almost 50% of the drivers could not finish the 1st lap :(

In both cases, the driver responsible of the accident changed his line and went into another driver.

From my PoV, you should use Pribluda : if you see no gap (0.0) it means you are side by side with another driver.

If you don't want to or cannot use Pribluda, you have to use F10 view !
If you don't want to or cannot drive with F10 view, you must not change your line during the red zone !


Server replay time: 0h00m59s

Jethro took a very quick start but too dangerous in this situation. He was almost chopping Martin's nose, and makes a very bold move in T1 on Ronnie.

But in the end he doesn't touch anyone, holds his line and keeps his nose clean...so no penalty, just a caution.


Server replay time: 0h01m00s

Violent side by side contact between Axel Cookie and Florian Gebhardt during lap one red zone.

Axel did no error but Florian could not see any car in his mirrors but he changed his line and had a great responsibility in the carnage that followed this accident.


Server replay time: 0h01m03s

David Rainier had a very slow start and, thanks to the gap with leaders, he could see the accident in front of his car, and he could brake and slow his car.
That was quite the same for Andreas Gebhardt but even if he could see what happened he did not slow his car at the right time, he also did not try to avoid the accident by changing his line and so he rear ended Rainier...


Server replay time: 0h01m05s

A second accident occured between Fran Molteni and Evil Clive, it was quite the same as Axel vs Florian :
Clive did no mistake but Fran changed his line and had a side by side contact with Clive.

Paul Whitfield was an innocent victim of this 2nd accident.

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« Reply #45 on: January 30, 2014, 01:10:24 PM +0000 »

A race report :

Big trouble at start of big race.  Big heap in need of big heap medicine.  Send smoke signal to all behind, warn of deranged redskin Pow-wow.  Remove foreign wheels from war bonnet, and follow fellow braves towards happier hunting ground.

Soon found myself in a three horse race, with the lead 3 scouts lead hoofing it up ahead, unsullied by the strickening sights of naked aggression.  In time, the trauma told, and Andreus befell a tree, or perhaps a bush.  And thus there remained, a lonely duo. angel

Mid-race, I thought I'd have a go at breaking the toe, but Evil fell quickly on it.  A silly half spin on wobbly Le Mans style boots, and it was suddenly crunch time!  Thence expected to catch the fleet footed offender, but failed to nail him down on the main straight.

It was thereby curtains to a podium, but nonetheless I believe, worthy of a bow.  No rotting fruit please, I already ate! Shocked
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« Reply #46 on: January 30, 2014, 08:45:27 PM +0000 »

Hello! I'm not 100% sure if this is where I'm spouse to say Hi, sorry for any inconvience! I have signed up for the message board and I see you guys do run a lot of series, I was just interested in the GPL 67 Cars. I only have the standard track and no other mods. I would greatly appreciate if I someone could give me a link to some tracks and mods! I would also like to know if I need anything else. Please tell me all the stuff I need to race. If you need my email to send me more info it is: [email protected] I look forward to seeing you guys on the track!

Thanks, Andre
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« Reply #47 on: January 30, 2014, 09:43:21 PM +0000 »

Hi Andre, welcome to UKGPL.  There is quite a lot to know if you only have the original Grand Prix Legends game loaded.   There are a dedicated group of guys who have remodelled all of the 67 GP cars to be much more accurate and something like 300+circuits to play with..and the best bit is that they are all free.  Grin

It is probably best to use this link to get you started with what you will need.

Although you may have the original game loaded and working I suggest that you save any setups or replays that you wish to keep and  reload GPL using the installer here  -> https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=ntncd5ta5egquif6l08eeqq8p1&topic=6787.0        you can then replace your setups. At this stage you do not need to download and install all of the other carsets for 65,66 69 etc just stick with your 67 cars and get the updates ( they really are so much better than the originals.)

The guide above and the links to all of the extra bits is pretty comprehensive and foolproof, but if you have any problems or questions post them here  -> https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=12063.0

Don't worry if you get lost on the forum, just post your probs right here you will probably be swamped with help. Especially if you have probs getting on-line with the race servers etc, we have some ultra clever boffins here who will guide you through any issues. If they could get me online, they can get anyone sorted!!

Look forward to seeing you on track soon.
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« Reply #48 on: January 31, 2014, 03:57:28 AM +0000 »

Okay thanks so Much! So that link, with the new GPL is that the latest and the greatest? What does it include? Like new sound texture packs and other stuff. As of now I have the all in one patch for GPL with the 67 cars and my version is 1.2.0.2. I will download your new GPL link tonight:0
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« Reply #49 on: January 31, 2014, 11:38:59 AM +0000 »

Elvinclive

Okay, that is just adorable.
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« Reply #50 on: January 31, 2014, 06:07:29 PM +0000 »

Having a "what if" moment... if I'd finished 2nd on the road, I would be joint top in the championship. Ah, what if...
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« Reply #51 on: February 08, 2014, 01:08:32 PM +0000 »

moderation published.
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« Reply #52 on: February 08, 2014, 04:20:47 PM +0000 »

Moderation published? Dave can you check it again because no mention has been made that I was at fault in some way for the mayhem that followed. Surely everyone would have got through if I had not been selfish enough to try and avoid the trouble ahead? My critics will be aghast if this verdict stands, please reconsider  laugh laugh laugh
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« Reply #53 on: February 08, 2014, 04:39:02 PM +0000 »

Moderation published? Dave can you check it again because no mention has been made that I was at fault in some way for the mayhem that followed. Surely everyone would have got through if I had not been selfish enough to try and avoid the trouble ahead? My critics will be aghast if this verdict stands, please reconsider  laugh laugh laugh

I checked the replay again.
For me you did nothing wrong.  There was contact with Dean as you tried to avoid several cars just in front of your Brabham.
But you didn't have enough gap (like Andreas for example) to do anything else.

By the way, if you really want a penalty  Grin we can ask other moderators.
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« Reply #54 on: February 08, 2014, 04:41:14 PM +0000 »

Moderation published? Dave can you check it again because no mention has been made that I was at fault in some way for the mayhem that followed. Surely everyone would have got through if I had not been selfish enough to try and avoid the trouble ahead? My critics will be aghast if this verdict stands, please reconsider  laugh laugh laugh
Memory's a bit hazy, but did I really overtake you into T1? (I feel a bit funny now... Cheesy)
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« Reply #55 on: February 08, 2014, 07:51:43 PM +0000 »

Moderation published? Dave can you check it again because no mention has been made that I was at fault in some way for the mayhem that followed. Surely everyone would have got through if I had not been selfish enough to try and avoid the trouble ahead? My critics will be aghast if this verdict stands, please reconsider  laugh laugh laugh
Memory's a bit hazy, but did I really overtake you into T1? (I feel a bit funny now... Cheesy)

You certainly did and it would have been a great move but for the trouble ahead. Then again maybe I was in reverse and going backwards past you, sorry  laugh
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« Reply #56 on: February 10, 2014, 08:29:36 AM +0000 »

I have a question. Who is the moderator that posted the report and who decided to do the punishments and why is the penalty 3 places and not 2, 4, 1 or 10 places? And btw, if you think punishment achieves anything good, you are wrong. The one who is without sin may throw the first stone. Punishment for "wrong" behavior is like the mom that slaps her 5 year old for smacking his brother.
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« Reply #57 on: February 10, 2014, 09:28:07 AM +0000 »

I have a question. Who is the moderator that posted the report and who decided to do the punishments and why is the penalty 3 places and not 2, 4, 1 or 10 places? And btw, if you think punishment achieves anything good, you are wrong. The one who is without sin may throw the first stone. Punishment for "wrong" behavior is like the mom that slaps her 5 year old for smacking his brother.

It is called having rules and setting in place a system that encourages people to respect them. How would you go about that business Florian?

The number of places you have lost is determined by the above mentioned rules, which are easily accessible to everyone on this site.

Actually, if it were for me, I think it would be useful to have a statistic of the accidents created by each single driver within the season. I think it is easy to lose sight of the bigger picture, convincing yourself that clashes with others are just an inevitable part of the game. Crashing into someone else is not 'wrong', it is just wrong.
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« Reply #58 on: February 10, 2014, 09:49:48 AM +0000 »

I have a question. Who is the moderator that posted the report and who decided to do the punishments and why is the penalty 3 places and not 2, 4, 1 or 10 places? And btw, if you think punishment achieves anything good, you are wrong. The one who is without sin may throw the first stone. Punishment for "wrong" behavior is like the mom that slaps her 5 year old for smacking his brother.

The three places come from the penalty for an incident where you are considered to be seriously at fault (two places) and one extra for causing an incident in the Red Zone.

The idea of these penalties is to encourage drivers to drive in a more responsible way by removing rewards (points) for 'wrong behaviour'. You can see it as a smack if you like  Grin
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« Reply #59 on: February 10, 2014, 07:12:47 PM +0000 »

I have a question. Who is the moderator that posted the report and who decided to do the punishments and why is the penalty 3 places and not 2, 4, 1 or 10 places? And btw, if you think punishment achieves anything good, you are wrong. The one who is without sin may throw the first stone. Punishment for "wrong" behavior is like the mom that slaps her 5 year old for smacking his brother.

It is called having rules and setting in place a system that encourages people to respect them. How would you go about that business Florian?

The number of places you have lost is determined by the above mentioned rules, which are easily accessible to everyone on this site.

Actually, if it were for me, I think it would be useful to have a statistic of the accidents created by each single driver within the season. I think it is easy to lose sight of the bigger picture, convincing yourself that clashes with others are just an inevitable part of the game. Crashing into someone else is not 'wrong', it is just wrong.

Cool that you ask me. I would rip apart every single rule and would have no rule at all. A system can´t "encourage" people to respect them. Either they do respect themselves or they do not. A system does not change anything. Why do you think punishment encourages people to respect each other? There is really no link between the one and the other. It just doesn´t work this way. As you can see in RL. It does NOT work. You are trying to convince yourself that clashes with others are no inevitable part of the game. You want a proof? The system exists, clashes still happen. So it didn´t change anything. There you have it. Crashing into someone is of course "wrong". Why? Because right and false do not exist. Therefore wrong doesn´t exist.

Edit: And thanks Arturo for making me realize this.
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