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October 10, 2014, 10:52:39 PM +0100 - Imola (2007+) - UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Friday Trophy
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Mark Jones
 
McLaren M8B/C/E Group 7 1 1:25.003
132.050mph
1 29:00.258
129.000mph
20 1:26.044
130.453mph
Goodyear  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
McLaren M8B/C/E Group 7 5 +1.019
130.486mph
2 +7.184
128.470mph
20 1:26.098
130.371mph
Goodyear  
Tom van Ostade
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 712M Group 7 4 +0.988
130.533mph
3 +8.036
128.407mph
20 1:25.623
131.094mph
Firestone  
DLogan
 
McLaren M8B/C/E Group 7 2 +0.411
131.415mph
4 +16.781
127.768mph
20 1:25.193
131.756mph
Goodyear  
GregT
 
Ferrari 712M Group 7 3 +0.983
130.541mph
5 +18.546
127.640mph
20 1:26.219
130.188mph
Firestone  
kinghiro
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lola T222 Group 7 6 +1.520
129.731mph
6 +27.675
126.981mph
20 1:26.676
129.502mph
Goodyear  
Iestyn Davies
 Blue Moose Racing
Porsche 917/10 Group 7 8 7 +1L
122.060mph
19 1:26.822
129.284mph
Goodyear  
UKGPL 8
 
McLaren M8D Group 7 7 8 DNS ---
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Goodyear  
SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
Grand Prix Legends
Group 7
1:25.003
132.004mph
Mark Jones
Qualifying
McLaren M8B/C/EOctober 10, 2014, 10:52:39 PM +0100
S27Fri
Grand Prix Legends
Group 7
1:25.193
131.710mph
DLogan
Race
McLaren M8B/C/EOctober 10, 2014, 10:52:39 PM +0100
S27Fri
October 10, 2014, 11:07:04 PM +0100 - Imola (2007+) - UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Friday Trophy
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
McLaren M8B/C/E Group 7 1 1:25.250
131.622mph
1 14:32.528
128.600mph
10 1:26.261
130.079mph
Goodyear  
Tom van Ostade
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 712M Group 7 4 +0.517
130.828mph
2 +2.277
128.266mph
10 1:26.434
129.819mph
Firestone  
kinghiro
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lola T222 Group 7 5 +0.760
130.459mph
3 +12.526
126.780mph
10 1:27.137
128.771mph
Goodyear  
GregT
 
Ferrari 712M Group 7 6 +1.188
129.813mph
4 +13.288
126.671mph
10 1:26.504
129.713mph
Firestone  
Iestyn Davies
 Blue Moose Racing
Porsche 917/10 Group 7 7 +2.009
128.591mph
5 +13.865
126.589mph
10 1:25.935
130.572mph
Goodyear  
DLogan
 
McLaren M8B/C/E Group 7 3 +0.117
131.441mph
6 +14.511
126.497mph
10 1:25.868
130.674mph
Goodyear  
Mark Jones
 
McLaren M8B/C/E Group 7 2 +0.003
131.617mph
7 +21.932
125.447mph
10 1:25.870
130.671mph
Goodyear  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Lola T222 Group 7 8 +2.783
127.461mph
8 +30.827
124.212mph
10 1:27.590
128.105mph
Goodyear  
kinghiro
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lola T222 Group 7 9 DNS ---
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Goodyear  
UKGPL 8
 
McLaren M8D Group 7 9 10 ---
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Goodyear  
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« on: October 05, 2014, 10:50:09 AM +0100 »

Season 27 Friday Trophy - Rounds 23 & 24 - Imola - CanAm 71

Welcome to the next round for the Friday Trophy, we stay in Imola. Named for the Ferrari heir, Dino, the track was renamed as the Autodromo Enzo e Dino after Enzo's death in 1988.
The track was inaugurated in 1953, and it had no chicanes, so the run from Rivazza all the way to Tosa, through the pits and the eventually notorious Tamburello was totally flat out, as was the run from Acque Minerali all the way to Rivazza was just a long straight with a few small bends; and the circuit remained in this configuration until 1972. Long time home of the San Marino Grand Prix (and once of the Italian Grand Prix) the circuit is fast, bumpy and dangerous.
After the deaths of Roland Ratzenberger and Ayrton Senna in 1994, the track was remodelled to reduce speeds but we use the original, high speed layout. Luckily the worst we can suffer is a disconnect.

This seasons tracks will be easy and well known to have a smaller time gap between the lights and heavies,
if there is a too big gap on a track, a stop and go for the lights in the 30min race will be recommended!

This is really designed to be a fun series with 3 different car mods
- running 1 sprint length race of ~15 min and a ~30 min race with the same car.
- ONE SHIFT-R with NO Stop n Go

Light drivers are restricted to not use the big 4: McLaren M8F+D, Lola T260 and Shadow MK2  
Heavy drivers will allways have a free car choice!

Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL_8
IP address = tbc
Race date = 10-10-2014
Variant = CanAm 71
Damage Model = intermediate
Track = Imola

Qualifying 1 Time = 20 minutes, starting  20:45 UK time
Race 1 Time = race 1 starts at ~21:05 UK time
Race 1 length = 15 minutes (10 laps )

Qualifying 2 Time = 10 minutes, starting  ~21:25 UK time
Race 2 Time = race 2 starts at ~21:35 UK time
Race 2 length = 30 minutes (20 laps )

Password: see above
Replay = will be here

Drivers having missed race1 can join the server for the Quali of race2 in IGOR

Please restrict chat to only real necessary messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

Races will be moderated for reported incidents only unless there is something VERY BAD happening!! so be nice to each other.  nono

GLA
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« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2014, 02:55:21 AM +0100 »

I ran across some stuff about Group 7 cars you guys might find interesting.

Here's a quote from Vic Elford:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuji_Speedway

"In 1969 I spent two months in Japan doing a test contract for Toyota and their Toyota 7 (5 litre V-8), which along with a big Nissan (6.3 litre V-12), was destined for CanAm. My last testing and then the subsequent Sports Car GP were at Fuji, but the track was run in a clockwise direction. The reason that banking was so horrific, was that at the end of the straight we went over a blind crest at around 190/200 mph and dropped into the banking. At other tracks (Daytona, Monthlery, etc.) you climb up the banking. One of the results was that although there were many brave Japanese drivers there were not too many with great skill and the death toll from that one corner was horrendous. To such an extent that the big Gp 7 cars were then banned in Japan and thus, neither Nissan or Toyota ever made it to CanAm."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_7

1968 Nissan R381
http://www.earlydatsun.com/nissanr381.html

1969 Nissan R382
http://www.earlydatsun.com/nissanr382.html

And this one!!!!! Wow, a possible 900hp turbocharged Can Am Nissan before 1971!?!?
http://www.earlydatsun.com/nissanr383.html

1968 Japanese Grand Prix. Some video of the R381 in action:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xCGMsc1ORQ

1969 Japanese Grand Prix. Some video of the R382 in action: Jo Siffert was there in a 917 with the original low tail plus plenty of the Toyota 7s.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZlhEuGLfec

There's also a video on Youtube called "Best Motoring - Racing History Vol.1 Nissan [R380 R381 R382]"
I think it is the cars' designer and one of the drivers talking about the cars. It's too bad I don't understand Japanese. If I understood what they're saying I'd enjoy that video more than I did.

I hope you enjoy. Let me know if this is all new to you too. It was to me.
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« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2014, 07:29:48 PM +0100 »

Yes, thanks GREG !!!.

Nissan R381 and R382 were beautiful cars ! it' s a pity they couldn't compete against the Porsche, Ferrari, Matra, Alfa, Lola and Ford of the World Championship of these times.

(and it's not Monthlery but Montlh√©ry, I live at 30 km from this track and went there many times between 1969 and 1976, my picture from Pescarolo's Alfa 33TT3 was taken there)    Wink
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« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2014, 07:16:43 AM +0100 »

I ran across some stuff about Group 7 cars you guys might find interesting.

Fascinating stuff, thanks Greg.
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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2014, 05:36:18 PM +0100 »

Thanks Greg!

I made a Ferrari setup that I like, you can find it here:

http://www.grandprixlegends.co.nf/files/TvO_F712M_12661_imola.he1
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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2014, 10:48:23 PM +0100 »

That was good fun! Congratulations Mark, Axel, Tom, and kinghiro!

It looks like I should have practiced more. I struggled with consistency. Dean's was even worse than mine.

It's difficult entering the turns while in the slipstream. Is it just the higher speed or do we lose downforce when trailing another car? My car was lousy entering the turns and much more prone to lock the wheels.

Thanks guys. I appreciate it.
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« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2014, 10:56:41 PM +0100 »

I think you do lose downforce whilst in the slipstream. I seem to recall the code calculation extra lift when that occurs. In any case the speeds are higher so you have to brake earlier to stop in time Cheesy .
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« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2014, 11:12:54 PM +0100 »

No setup no practice so a third was a welcomed surprice in the first race. Second I was more where supposed to and had fun trying to defend vs Greg. I guess I could held my line when he attacked at sf line, but chose to give way and slowed. Greg backed off too so after a bit confusion I saw him reenter from the grass. I should have been able to stay on track and not hit him, but went a bit far right and had a long slow turn on the grass. Never managed to close the gap and ended sixth wich was ok after all.
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« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2014, 10:20:59 AM +0100 »

Great racing with lots of fun action  Grin

In Quali1, what a showdown in the last lap, I managed to succeed with -0.003sec to Mark... (This is not MotoGP!)
Race 1 was perfect from the pole just controling the gap until last lap when I had a little blackout into Rivazza,
but it was enough to keep in front of hard pressing Tommie Tongue

In Quali2 I did not manage to make a perfect lap and had to start from 4th.
But Gregs and Deans problems presented me 2nd with Tommie allways in my neck  Grin

A shame no Heavy showed  Shocked
I hope this will change for Monza 10k...
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« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2014, 09:44:59 PM +0100 »

PC problems last night & more troubling was DSL being more down than up,  which was what kept me away.
Not that I'd have achieved much anyway.

Sounds like there may have been some good scrapping though!

Cheers,
Dave.
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