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October 26, 2014, 09:36:29 PM +0000 - Monaco (1929-71) - UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Works Trophy (67)
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 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Tom van Ostade
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 1 1:26.153
81.653mph
1 49:20.126
80.800mph
34 1:26.308
81.506mph
Firestone  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 4 +0.603
81.086mph
2 +26.394
80.086mph
34 1:26.540
81.288mph
Goodyear  
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 6 +0.723
80.974mph
3 +37.117
79.800mph
34 1:26.699
81.139mph
Goodyear  
Robert Fleurke
 Antipasti Racing
BRM P115 F1 1967 9 +1.772
80.008mph
4 +1L
78.044mph
33 1:28.647
79.356mph
Goodyear  
AndyL
 
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 12 +2.604
79.258mph
5 +16.782
77.606mph
33 1:29.109
78.944mph
Firestone  
kinghiro
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 11 +2.427
79.416mph
6 +25.435
77.382mph
33 1:28.961
79.076mph
Goodyear  
AnGex
 Black Night Racing
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 13 +3.685
78.304mph
7 +59.444
76.515mph
33 1:29.274
78.799mph
Firestone  
Baab
 Team Baarf
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 5 +0.628
81.062mph
8 +2L
79.545mph
32 1:26.884
80.966mph
Goodyear  
ivandjj
 
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 14 +3.827
78.180mph
9 +1:42.762
76.758mph
32 1:29.555
78.551mph
Firestone  
Arf Arf Arf
 Team Baarf
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 10 +2.277
79.551mph
10 +18L
77.865mph
16 1:28.687
79.320mph
Disco
Firestone  
Iestyn Davies
 Blue Moose Racing
BRM P115 F1 1967 3 +0.581
81.106mph
11 +22L
79.557mph
12 1:27.367
80.519mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Turkey Machine
 
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 2 +0.209
81.456mph
12 +30L
77.146mph
4 1:28.126
79.825mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Ronniepeterson
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 8 +1.100
80.624mph
13 +0.697
76.999mph
4 1:28.213
79.746mph
Disco
Firestone  
GregT
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 7 +0.724
80.973mph
14 +2.574
76.605mph
4 1:27.725
80.190mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
BRM P115 F1 1967 16 +6.827
75.658mph
15 +24.517
72.287mph
4 1:32.033
76.436mph
Disco
Goodyear  
DLogan
 
Honda RA300 F1 1967 15 +4.204
77.854mph
16 +32L
60.493mph
2 1:42.978
68.312mph
Disco
Firestone  
Iestyn Davies
 Blue Moose Racing
BRM P115 F1 1967 17 DNS ---
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Goodyear  
UKGPL 8
 
BRM P115 F1 1967 17 18 ---
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Goodyear  

Moderator's Report

SUMMARY
A clean start for everyone (except for Dean who managed a very nice pirouette all on his own) which meant there was nothing of note in the red zone. Tommie led from the start and was never headed, claiming the win and fastest lap in the process. A very impressive performance. Clive managed to hang on to second place after swapping positions a couple of times with Tim Muttram in their very evenly matched Brabhams. Three people managed to blow their engines, Axel retired early, two drivers crashed on their own and three others perished in a pile up. But that still left ten points finishers, not bad on such a notoriously demanding circuit.


Server replay time: 0h07m55s

Lap 5 - Chicane - Bob Whitwell, Ronnie Peterson, Jethro Walters and Gregory Taber
Bob clips the straw bales and spins uncontrollably towards Tabac. Jethro is following closely, he manages to avoid Bob but spins then is collected by Ronnie who is in turn hit by Gregory Taber. Jethro, Ronnie and Gregory are all out but Bob manages to continue.

Bob made the initial mistake but tried his best to keep out of the way. His spinning car ended up facing the wrong way so he turned the wheel left and rolled backwards into the bales, there was nothing more Bob could have done.

Jethro, Ronnie and Gregory were just unlucky. It is very difficult to negotiate around wreckage on this very fast and narrow part of the track. Yellow flags are not shown on server replays so it is not possible to check if there was any warning shown to the drivers. However it is a timely reminder that the yellow flags can be very helpful and if heeded just might give a driver the extra split second he needs to avoid a pile up.

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« on: October 20, 2014, 04:06:34 PM +0100 »

Season 27 Works Trophy - Round 6 - Monaco

Welcome to Round 6 for the Season 27 Graduates Works Trophy, we're off to the glamour and high life of Monaco!

Circuit de Monaco is a street circuit laid out on the city streets of Monte Carlo and La Condamine around the harbour of the principality of Monaco. It is commonly referred to as "Monte Carlo" because it is largely inside the Monte Carlo neighbourhood of Monaco. A very challenging tight twisty circuit, few opportunities for passing but plenty of chances to hit the scenery. You’ve heard this before but please take care, especially on Lap 1!

Race List = iGOR
Server = UKGPL_8
IP address = tbc
Race date = Sunday 26-10-2014
Race Time = race starts at 21:30 UK time (21:30 GMT)
Qualifying Time = Between 30 and 60 minutes, starting no later than 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT)
Track = Monaco (Papyrus)
Variant = 67F1
Damage Model = Pro
Race length = 34 Laps (50 minutes)
Password: see above

Replays Available here

Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page

The full time drivers can start to practice as soon as the server is available.  Reserve drivers can also join as soon as the server becomes available but must leave the server with 35 minutes of qualifying left, for a total of 5 minutes; this will allow any remaining full timers to join.  If there is enough space on the grid, the reserve drivers will be able to rejoin when there are 30 mins of qualifying left. 

Moderating The red zone will be fully moderated from the start to the exit of Portier on Lap 1. Other moderation will be on reported incidents only.  However any incidents that occur in the red zone that are not reported by the drivers will be reported by the moderator.  This will allow all affected drivers the opportunity to present their case before the incident is moderated.  This should ensure there are no surprises when the moderator's report is published and hence appeals will be less likely.  If you haven't received a PM about an incident before the link below the results table is removed, you can be sure that you will not appear in the moderator's report.

The chassis token system is explained on the Works standings page. Please ensure you choose a chassis that is within your budget, which can be seen by hovering the mouse over your points total in the standings.

Please restrict chat to pit messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.
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« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2014, 05:38:24 PM +0000 »

A reminder that the clocks went back an hour in the UK, so start times are now GMT/UTC.

Gotta love winter. Cheesy
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« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2014, 08:13:49 PM +0000 »

A good buddy of mine is a keen aviation enthusiast and pilot.  He likens his health to a four-engined B-17 bomber.  When suffering, he is heard to say, 'Engines one, two and three are burnt out and number four just started to belch blue smoke.'  That about describes my state of health today, too, as I attempt to recover from a nasty cold.  I'll be for today's Monaco round if only to pick up the start tokens.

Thanks for the heads-up on the start time revision, Jethro.  I showed up in iGOR at my usual time and saw...nothing.  That explains it.  Over here in North America, we're still on DST for another two weeks.
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« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2014, 08:37:40 PM +0000 »

Best of luck Doni - I had lurgy for the last round and didn't last very long.
On a positive note I found the concentration and effort cleared my head nicely while driving though.  Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2014, 09:33:12 PM +0000 »

Couldn't hook up with the server.  30 minutes of blowing my brains out trying a fix.  This happened for the last Pro race, too.

Looking at my modem, it might be the ISP connection as it doesn't look anywhere near as healthy as it should.  Gotta give 'em a call...
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« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2014, 09:48:01 PM +0000 »

Survived 5 or 6 laps then had the worst shunt at the chicane for a while... one to forget I suppose.
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« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2014, 09:51:07 PM +0000 »

Well what can I say Jethro and Greg.....................commiserations and sometimes you just have to laugh.

Bob, who started all the fun off by fluffing the chicane, heads off into the sunset and we dream of what might have been.

Good luck to Bob and all who are still running. See you all on track somewhere soon.
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« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2014, 10:06:14 PM +0000 »

17:51.21 <Dean_0_Pizza_Burner> how it go?
17:54.06 <DLogan> aside from my spin before crosing the start line? I was far enough back in the grid (expected) that I started on the hairpin, could only start when others went (couldn't see flag), and was over-exuberant with my shift to second
17:54.23 <DLogan> ater that it just went downhill
17:54.30 <Dean_0_Pizza_Burner> 
17:54.49 <DLogan> honda hates cold tires
17:55.32 <DLogan> couple more clumps into armco and i think i broke a drive shaft
17:55.58 <DLogan> wouldn't go straight
17:56.30 <Dean_0_Pizza_Burner> whale had bent flipper?
17:56.56 <DLogan> limp around finish another lap doing rapid mental math to figure chances of actually getting to 50% distance at 2:05 a lap
17:57.17 <DLogan> while frantically scrambling out of anyone's way
17:57.23 <Dean_0_Pizza_Burner> heh
17:58.36 <DLogan> and looped it into casino, made it a real tricycle, so gnite Irene
18:00.02 <DLogan> stupid monaco
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« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2014, 10:08:20 PM +0000 »

Well what can I say Jethro and Greg.....................commiserations and sometimes you just have to laugh.

That's about all we could do. I wish the flagman had given me some warning. I was wide open into the chicane. I missed Bob, I couldn't miss Ray. I wish you had sat still but then Jethro likely would have collected me. It's a shame I couldn't get a good qualifying run. I might have got to miss all that excitement. I botched the start too. I couldn't tell which engine was mine with all those roaring Repcos Smiley

Take care guys.
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« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2014, 10:18:16 PM +0000 »

Hey Ho...there I was, sitting in 9th when the crash ahead turned it into 6th... then I passed Iestyn at the side of the road and it was 5th... tried hard to concentrate, and for a change succeeded, only for the engine gremlins to take it away from me on Lap 18. Unless anyone is crawling round that's a safe but disappointing 9th....

Lots of business travels in next few weeks, so not sure when I will see you all next.

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« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2014, 02:34:05 AM +0000 »

Bob, you're a fiend! You create chaos, get a good look at your handiwork, and then merrily motor away. I'm guess I'm one too after my similar performance at Dundrod. And we call Clive, evil?

It's bound to happen. It sucks to lose the driving time though. Sad
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« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2014, 08:03:23 AM +0000 »

Yeah sorry for the drama, is it any consolation that it was the only time I didn't get it right through there?!   Course not, only good thing is that it wasn't L1.  It was a genuine mistake but you shouldn't really have to put up with that at this level, I'm ashamed to have caused the retirements of 3 other drivers, especially when I was able to continue without any apparent damage.

I did manage to carry on after that, a pretty lonely race most of the time in 4th.  At times I was holding the gap ahead to Tim but couldn't catch him and in the final few laps backed off a bit, but it wasn't enough and the engine blew just before the tunnel on the penultimate lap...gutted.  I thought the engine was fine, temperature totally okay and didn't think I was revving too much, as there isn't much point in the torque beast.  I did do one speed shift that I can remember, perhaps that was all it took.

WD to all finishers, no mean feat around this place.

See you next time,

Bob.
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« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2014, 03:29:41 PM +0000 »

First get well soon Doni, and a shame you couldn't collect some tokens...

Didn't look forward to Monaco, a downer track for me and hard to get around with my 270degree wheel (can't use steering hack with 100% linearity I think, feels wrong) and 10:1 strg ratio...so chose the BRM, in testing it didn't went that bad, but still off the pace compared to the faster guys, and getting tight real soon burning LF tire...

Qualified midpack in a messy session in which it was hard to get a reasonable lap, and started real easy. Early laps was running 10th, behind Arf with Andy close behind. Settled down but made a few mistakes after 10 laps touching armco and wall. With all the attrition I was suddenly 6th and after Arf had to retire 5th. I had no pressure from behind and it was just matter to try to finish. Tommie lapped me in the last 10 laps or so and did inherit 4th when Bob blew up...

A huge problem for me is the chicane after the Tunnel. At some point in 36FPS races I lose my concentration there, hard to explain, like blacking out, flickering. It was a miracle I made it through there 33 times. Not sure if it is 36FPS + LCD monitor +Tunnel, or my eyesight, maybe both. Also for some reason had in my mind 38 laps and also still had a lot of fuel left...I wonder if there are others having probs out of the Tunnel with their focus, like your eyesight is shutting down for a moment...

Anyway, congrats Tommie for a great win, dominant, and Clive and Tim for a great race and result as well. A lot of tough luck for many, but still a great job by all finishers and classifiers. In particular Andy with his 17th consecutive finish I think. Commiserations to all retirements, very tough luck for some...

Might enjoy this track better with a better wheel with more reach, and arguably 60FPS Wink
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« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2014, 04:09:00 PM +0000 »

Robert it was nearly the same for me, as I have my problems here too.

I even switched back to the original track of the CD to minimize all possible distortions...

I took the BRM for some tokens, but was such stressed after some laps that I just quit totaly exhausted.

For 2015 I will join only 60fps races, maybe we can do it with UKGPL, if not there are lots of other leagues using it.
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« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2014, 05:03:02 PM +0000 »

Thanks Axel, sorry to hear...though in a way it's good to hear I'm not the only one Wink Wonder eyestrain damages your eyesight? Maybe it's just my mind but suspecting my eyesights is worse than it used to be...but I passed the 40s eh? Wink

Also hoping UKGPL will make a switch to 60FPS, we need to include it in the S27 mid-season feedback topic, I do expect a majority to vote in favour of it. Still on a P4 machine and can run 60FPS at most tracks...

Would be a step forward IMO Smiley
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