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December 09, 2014, 10:35:53 PM +0000 - Zandvoort (1948-72) - UKGPL Season 27 (2014) Professionals Trophy (65)
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Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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Robert Fleurke
 Antipasti Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 1 1:27.362
107.304mph
1 48:38.411
106.000mph
33 1:27.591
107.023mph
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 9 +1.859
105.068mph
2 +38.801
104.609mph
33 1:28.357
106.096mph
Goodyear  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 5 +0.772
106.364mph
3 +40.453
104.551mph
33 1:28.515
105.906mph
Dunlop  
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 7 +1.738
105.211mph
4 +1:03.035
103.759mph
33 1:29.185
105.111mph
Goodyear  
Ronniepeterson
 
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 8 +1.836
105.095mph
5 +1:13.549
103.394mph
33 1:29.151
105.151mph
Dunlop  
AndyL
 
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 6 +1.550
105.433mph
6 +1:14.011
103.378mph
33 1:28.973
105.361mph
Dunlop  
DLogan
 
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 10 +2.700
104.087mph
7 +1:20.713
103.147mph
33 1:28.633
105.765mph
Dunlop  
Turkey Machine
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 4 +0.714
106.434mph
8 +1:27.863
102.902mph
33 1:28.575
105.834mph
Goodyear  
Doni Yourth
 Blue Moose Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 11 +2.856
103.907mph
9 +1L
102.059mph
32 1:30.542
103.535mph
Goodyear  
NHance
 Mountside Racing
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 13 10 +13.017
101.609mph
32 1:30.119
104.021mph
Dunlop  
MagicArsouille
 
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 3 +0.323
106.909mph
11 +15L
104.670mph
18 1:28.625
105.775mph
Disco
Dunlop  
uli
 
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 2 +0.071
107.217mph
12 +26L
97.740mph
7 1:28.547
105.868mph
Disco
Dunlop  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 13 DNS ---
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Goodyear  
UKGPL 8
 
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 12 14 ---
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Dunlop  

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« on: December 04, 2014, 11:20:04 PM +0000 »

Season 27 Professionals Trophy –Zandvoort

It would have been the closing race of Season 27, apart from the re-run of East London so don’t forget to turn up for that. Zandvoort is an original Papyrus track featuring changes in gradient & camber through the sand dunes. All of the corners have names with at least 25 letters. The first one is called “Tarzan” – because this sound is often heard from the late breakers -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwHWbsvgQUE

The full time drivers can start to practice as soon as the server is available.  Reserve drivers can also join as soon as the server becomes available but must leave the server with 35 minutes of qualifying left, for a total of 5 minutes; this will allow any remaining full timers to join.  If there is enough space on the grid, the reserve drivers will be able to rejoin when there are 30 mins of qualifying left. 

Please restrict chat to pit messages including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL_8
IP address = TBA
Race date = Tuesday 09-12-2014
Time = 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT)
Track = Zandvoort
Race length = 33 laps
Variant = 1965
Damage Model = Pro
Qualifying time = minimum of 30 minutes

Championship table can be found here Professionals Trophy

Replay will be here

Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page
The red zone will be fully moderated for lap 1 only. For this race, the red zone will be from the start until the Hondenvlak corner.
Other moderation will be on reported incidents only.
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« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2014, 10:52:47 PM +0000 »

One to forget for me. Time to source a new wheel methinks, and possibly a new computer to play this on, as this is getting a bit silly with the frame skipping.
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« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2014, 12:22:56 AM +0000 »

Glad to win my home race. Race was rather uneventful, from the start never looked back and drove away from the rest.

Sadly had a moment with Norm lapping him towards the end. Hoped you would see me and let me by on the straight. To me you slowed too much on the racing line before Tarzan and then couldn't avoid you, even when I already lifted 25m-50m earlier than normal. Maybe you wanted to let me by at the inside, not sure, fact is I got caught out. IMO it's never a good idea to try to let ppl by into corners, try to do it out of corners and straights...glad we both could continue and finish Wink

Had cold feet left without central heating, but apart from the lap with Norm and the last lap when I let Jethro unlap himself (both 30s), this was a superconsistent race for me, always low 28 or high 27. Setup was awesome, tweaked a Steve Cloyd. Lower tirepressures, slightly taller gearings for race and other strg ratio.

Well done Clive and Axel, who had  a great fight, and finishers. Tough luck retirements...

As East London is a re-run (which I forgot), the championship is still wide open. Sorry for Uli's mechanical bad luck though...
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« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2014, 01:22:07 AM +0000 »

...possibly a new computer to play this on, as this is getting a bit silly with the frame skipping.

What are your system specs? The 65 mod at Zandvoort shouldn't give anyone on a post-2000 machine grief.
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« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2014, 10:57:11 AM +0000 »

Its bad enough being in an accident but taking out the local hero when he was leading would have meant I wouldn't leave Holland alive Wink. Sorry Rob. Yes I did slow to let you past & was relieved you won. After my performance at Dundrod I decided to give myself a self imposed back of the grid start & see if I could hang on. I couldn't. The one race where hardly anyone dropped out, just my luck Grin. Did not drive defensively at all so Andy, FMG, Ronnie passed me into turn one after offs I assume  & Jethro, I think, 3 times!! (he kept crashing at T1) which made the incident with Rob so disappointing. First time this season I had no offs, no drama at all, just not fast enough. Well done the podium finishers.

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« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2014, 11:17:36 AM +0000 »

if somebody find a wheel in the sand.......it's my front left wheel...... Tongue
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« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2014, 01:16:10 PM +0000 »

 A strange race for me.

Arrived late on the server and just selected the Brabham and a setup from the list.  For some reason my display had reverted to 800x600 and had all the settings for "Training mode"!!
So I quit and went looking for the reason.

Re joined the server and re-set to Pro level and drove out of the pits. The gears seemed way out I was not able to get out of 4th gear on the straight??  the next few laps were spent trying to get the ratios right....really puzzled as to why they should be so wrong on an existing setup??

Then with the end of qually I had to guess at an adjustment for 2nd gear before the start. I was way back in 9th place on the grid and about 1.5 secs off the pace.  The first lap proved that second gear was still too high and 1st was too low!! so the hairpins were a real problem as the car bogged down on the exits. The big plus was that the handling through the back of the circuit was great and I could make up time there.

I picked up places as cars in front had "incidents" and made a pass or two into Tarzan until I was up to 4th but with Robert,Uli and Tris way ahead.

Then I passed a slow Ferrari and it was Uli in trouble, hard luck Uli.  Axel was hunting me down and slowly getting closer especially into Tarzan where he was taking huge chunks out of my lead, but I could just stretch the gap around the back of the track and get enough space to protect my place into Tarzan on the next lap. Each lap was a struggle to maintain the gap and Axel was determined to take my 3rd place.

With about 10 laps to go I thought that I had just about eased enough of a gap to be able to hold Axel off until the flag...then we came across Tristan!!! sideways across the track and still moving after an off scared scared I had no choice but to drive up the grass bank and hope that I could keep control and get back onto the tarmac before the next corner!!!

How I kept the car going in the right direction I don't know, but I lost my hard one lead over Axel and it was another session of hard laps before I could ease away again.

I had to take a defensive line down the inside into Tarzan on a couple of occasions and I was glad that Zandvoort really has only one passing place, other wise Axel might well have made things difficult for me.

I was still struggling with that 2nd gear and now had an overheating front left tyre, something that I rarely suffer with as the race ended.

Grats to Robert on a dominant win.

It was only after the race ended that I discovered that I had loaded an F2 brab setup!!! which explains why the gearing was all wrong...but I need to look at the chassis setup because the handling was almost perfect  Wink
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« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2014, 02:47:09 PM +0000 »

Its bad enough being in an accident but taking out the local hero when he was leading would have meant I wouldn't leave Holland alive Wink. Sorry Rob. Yes I did slow to let you past & was relieved you won.

Appreciate it Norm, I'm sorry too and I'm glad you could finish as well. Wink Thanks all for racing and see you at East London for the final conclusion! Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2014, 04:16:33 PM +0000 »

Grats to Robert for his home win!
Sorry for Uli to loose in such a race the engine...

Yeah that, was a hard fight, after I had a wobble out of T1L1, I had to regain lots of places until I had Jethro and Clive fighting in my sight.
Jethro spun and I was hunting Clive alone.
I had two self inflicted handicaps, my 5th gear was too short (had forgotten to make it longer after quali!) so I could not really use Clives slipstream and my LF was overheating whenever I pushed harder...
When the hairy spin of Tris made Clive go into the gras I did not use my chance to pass, I did not want to profit from such a situation Wink
So I was happy with my 3rd place and was Grin after the race.   
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« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2014, 07:45:45 PM +0000 »

...possibly a new computer to play this on, as this is getting a bit silly with the frame skipping.

What are your system specs? The 65 mod at Zandvoort shouldn't give anyone on a post-2000 machine grief.

Dell Inspiron 1501 laptop with 2GB RAM.
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« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2014, 10:14:52 PM +0000 »

...Dell Inspiron 1501 laptop with 2GB RAM.

Hmmm... razzinfrazzinfruzzin laptops  grrrr....

Sorry, desktop chauvinism showing there.  Wink

Anyhoo, I assume you've done all the common tips & tricks, ie. disable all power saving features, tweak GPU (anti-aliasing, anistropic filtering, etc.)? There might be threads at SRMZ to help. I use nVidia, and there's an aftermarket utility called nVidia Inspector that gives a lot more control than the stock nVidia one. I'm sure there's an equivalent for ATi gear, though how much an onboard GPU will gain from it, dunno. Worth checking at least, imo.

Good luck with it, and let us know if you find anything good. Others may benefit, as well.
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« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2014, 10:18:53 PM +0000 »

Congratulation Robert to your dominate win on your home race. Shame that I had this bloody tech rob because I often made my holidays in Schoorl naturally with a visit in Zandvoort, even saw there three F1 Races, so it is a bit my second home race  Wink, congratulation to Clive and Axel fine, close fight the whole race!
Exhaust manifold (Krümmer) defect in lap 7 – I‘m still a bit frustrated, that was not the kind of season final I had hope for. Second time after Dundrod I didn‘t finish …
GRATS to your hotlap Robert. At the end of first lap Tris attack me with help of a fine slipstream and made fantastic overtaking maneuver on the outside of the Tarzan – GRATS to you Tristan. After a few laps I recognize that I could go faster but I want to go carefully, want not risk my engine but it didn't work Sad
It‘s time to leave Ferrari, want a car to finish with every race …
That was a very close championship!!!
THX to you all. Have a good time hope we meet next season again.
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« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2014, 11:24:10 PM +0000 »

Thanks Uli, hated to see you retire.

But....don't forget (I also forgot before, when I congratulated you for c'ship after Dundrod) we still have a East-London rerun which is yet to be scheduled (hopefully soon). TBH I'd hate to miss a chance on a championship because a race hasn't been run. More than half the field discoed at the same time and it was red-flagged. Wink

http://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=12618.15
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« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2014, 04:50:34 PM +0000 »

I can't complain at my finishing position after my trip into the sand dunes on lap 1 - I still don't know if I was crowded off avoiding a car next to me or if I crowded myself off imagining there was a car next to me....
Either way I dropped to dead last on the first lap and spent the rest of the race fighting my way back up the order as a result. I think this must have been an old setup based on the Toe settings so I know it wasn't as fast as it could have been, but was good fun anyway.

Sorry to Dean again, it may have just been lag but I'd still rather not have knocked you off at Tarzan  ninja

...possibly a new computer to play this on, as this is getting a bit silly with the frame skipping.

What are your system specs? The 65 mod at Zandvoort shouldn't give anyone on a post-2000 machine grief.

Dell Inspiron 1501 laptop with 2GB RAM.

Check you don't have VSync turned on. I forgot about this when I started racing again at the start of the season and was having horrific frame rate issues for the first few races.
Baring in mind I now use a 4Ghz i7 with 12Gb of ram and a monster GFX card (brought about by the fact I have Project CARS naturally Wink )

After disabling Vsync it's run faultlessly as you'd expect! As Dean says though I would still expect my old Desktop in the loft to run a 65 race at Zandy, and that was last used in about 2004!
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« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2014, 07:48:30 PM +0000 »

...Sorry to Dean again, it may have just been lag but I'd still rather not have knocked you off at Tarzan  ninja...

We all know that's a bad place to be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNg6IvrIHbk#t=87Wink
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