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July 05, 2016, 10:35:39 PM +0100 - Zandvoort (1948-72) - UKGPL Season 30 (2016) Professionals Trophy (65)
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
roo
 Team Groundhog
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 1 1:27.496
107.194mph
1 48:48.234
105.698mph
33 1:28.190
106.350mph
Dunlop  
Robert Fleurke
 Antipasti Racing
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 5 +0.468
106.624mph
2 +4.613
105.532mph
33 1:28.038
106.534mph
Dunlop  
MagicArsouille
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 4 +0.433
106.666mph
3 +17.365
105.075mph
33 1:28.078
106.486mph
Dunlop  
Ronniepeterson
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 3 +0.323
106.800mph
4 +29.163
104.656mph
33 1:28.119
106.436mph
Dunlop  
DLogan
 
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 6 +0.969
106.020mph
5 +31.748
104.564mph
33 1:28.402
106.095mph
Dunlop  
Doni Yourth
 Blue Moose Racing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 8 +1.860
104.963mph
6 +53.792
103.791mph
33 1:29.543
104.743mph
Goodyear  
Carlos Cendejas
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 9 +1.997
104.802mph
7 +1:02.001
103.506mph
33 1:29.788
104.458mph
Goodyear  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 2 +0.295
106.834mph
8 +18L
104.932mph
15 1:28.323
106.190mph
Disco
Dunlop  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 7 +1.137
105.819mph
9 +27L
103.281mph
6 1:29.146
105.210mph
Disco
Goodyear  
60fps UKGPL8
 
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 10 10 DNS ---
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Dunlop  

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Roo Mellor wins the race, leading from start to finish. Robert Fleurke finishes second, setting the fastest lap of the race. Tristan Bot rounds out the podium after losing time on Lap 1.


Server replay time: 0h02m00s

On Lap 1, Ronnie (Ray) goes off towards Panoramabocht and rejoins the track, making contact with Tristan. Ronnie continues on track, Tristan goes off and loses time and trackposition; and has suspension damage.

Tristan reports Ronnie didn\'t take any care rejoining, and was still full throttle. Ronnie reports Tristan could have stayed to the right of the track, avoiding the contact.

Since it was Lap 1, Ronnie knew there were cars close behind. He lost speed and momentum on the grass, but drove/went back on the racing line. Tristan appears to leave room on the inside, but the collision boxes do their work, and Tris goes off. The topography of the track and corner certainly contributed to the incident, as well as the collision box/lag. It looks like Ronnie could have done a better job trying to stay off the racing line. I don\'t think Tris could have done much more. It\'s very hard to give a lot of room at that corner, risking to go off yourself. Tristan was clearly the victim here.

Since Tristan doesn\'t ask for a penalty, and considering all factors, it\'s an Incompetent Bad Rejoin: Warning for Ronnie.

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« on: June 29, 2016, 01:05:52 PM +0100 »

Season 30 Professionals Trophy – Round 3 – Zandvoort

For the third round of the season we go to Circuit Park Zandvoort in the Netherlands. On 7 August 1948, the first race was held on the new permanent Zandvoort circuit. Soon more races followed on the course, with the first official Formula 1 Grand Prix becoming a milestone in 1952. Up until the mid-eighties, heroes like Alberto Ascari, Juan Manuel Fangio, Stirling Moss, Graham Hill, Jim Clark, Jackie Stewart, James Hunt, Nelson Piquet and Alain Prost braved the challenging course in the Dutch dunes and won at Zandvoort. After the Grand Prix of 1985, the Formula 1 left Zandvoort, but the seaside resort and its impressive race track were not forgotten. Many years after the last Grand Prix, the ‘racing drivers of the day’ still talk about their experience on the race track where the challenging corners ‘separated the men from the boys’.

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Race date = Tuesday 05-07-16
Time = 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT)
Track = Papyrus Original
Race length = 33 laps (45-50 minutes)
Variant = 1965
60fps patch used   = 60fpsV2newmod
Damage Model = Pro
Qualifying time = 30-45 minutes

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« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2016, 07:37:41 AM +0100 »

hmm, thought this was at Assen!?
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« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2016, 08:25:36 AM +0100 »

hmm, thought this was at Assen!?

Assen has proven to be too unreliable recently, therefore wouldn't take the risk and replaced it with Zandvoort instead...
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« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2016, 12:15:46 AM +0100 »

Thanks Axel for server and replay (first post)! It's great to have UKGPL3 up and running again, cheers Paul! Smiley Sorry you had probs in the race Axel...

I had a great quali with twice a sub28 lap without tow, a PB! Still only P5 since the times were so close. First laps were eventful, but most cars in front went off, and by then was 3.5s behind Roo...reeled him in tenth by tenth, had to check up twice not rearending him when he went sideways and hit the kerbs, but that's racing...didn't really have the gearing for a tow, I wanted to be able to do good laps in clean air, so Roo basically only had to make sure staying on track at the infield...last laps made mistakes pushing too much and burning my tires, and had to settle for P2 Wink

Great job and a very well deserved win by Roo, well done mate! Smiley Also good recovery by Tris Wink Shame for a relatively small grid, yet the racing was great from my point of view...commiserations to the DNF's...noticed Clive was gaining on me at some point but then he was gone sadly...

Thanks for racing all Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2016, 07:50:49 AM +0100 »

Seems I had a similarly good quali session, twice setting a new pb, without a tow. I had had a slight contact with Ronnie on my first flying lap but decided to carry on & see if the car was ok & it seemed to be... I couldn't do the same laptimes in my Q2 with an 'undamaged' car though, so thanks Ronnie! Still, I was surprised to be on pole.

I got through T1 first & after a few laps I knew if I kept it clean I could keep Axel behind. I tried to break the tow down the straight & opened a gap before Robert appeared in 2nd. At first I could just about keep the gap but slowly Robert closed through to me having to push hard to try to maintain the gap, cooking tyres, making small mistakes & his incredible pace in the bt7  alien
The second half of the race was intense  sweatdrop but I figured Robert's only chances were into the 2 hairpins & if I made no major mistakes through the dunes I should be ok.

Luckily Robert is sharp enough to avoid contact when we make mistakes in front of him. It would have been so easy for him to nerf me off & take the win. Respect  I Am Not Worthy

I got lucky with 2 laps to go when Robert went deep into T1 & I was able to take the chequer for my first ukgpl win  thumbup1

Thanks for the racing, grats to all finishers & thanks to the admins.

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« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2016, 09:31:29 AM +0100 »

Grats Roo!!!
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« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2016, 10:01:20 AM +0100 »

Two large glasses of wine = at least 2 bad down shifts and over revving
Grats to Roo on his maiden win..... much overdue IMHO.

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The moral is don't drink and drive  Undecided

After a rather nice meal and the wine I fired up the PC and joined the server with about 20mins to go. For the first time ever I had a square green panel instead of the normal steering wheel in the Brabham, So I quit and re joined hoping that it would correct itself, but it didn't.

As a result I could not see the rev counter, so I turned off the steering wheel and arms and drove a car that seemed very odd.   Sad

I used a set up that I have used before and for some inexplicable reason ( probably the wine) I thought it would be a good idea to lower a couple of the gear ratios!!!  death

The first few laps went well and I picked up a couple of places as others tried to cut the grass in various places. Tris had recovered from an off behind me and I was working hard to close on Robert ahead and Tris at a safe distance behind, so that he could not make an attack into Tarzan.

Robert was very quick in his BT7 and the gap was closing, but very, very slowly and it was going to take a lot of laps to get at him. Then the engine lost power as the reduced ratios and clumsy gearchanges took their revenge. Must remember to go back and put those ratios right.

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« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2016, 10:56:43 AM +0100 »

thanks guys, pretty chuffed Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2016, 11:35:56 AM +0100 »

I made a stupid beginners mistake raising the left front tire pressure after my last race fuel test...

So my LF overcooked after a while and I was not able to keep the pace, so I left in frustration Roll Eyes
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« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2016, 05:21:38 PM +0100 »

The moral is don't drink and drive  Undecided
I always drink and drive on here - I generally drive better  Grin


Apologies for not attending, I was tired and as I've got rough dates for my placements now I have no real need to compete. I have maybe one more round per championship I can make before i head off for India and Japan  Sad/ Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2016, 06:08:36 PM +0100 »

Two large glasses of wine = at least 2 bad down shifts and over revving

The moral is don't drink and drive  Undecided

I suppose the English drink their wine as well in pints? Grin Not always, but usually drink a few beers when racing, makes me less nervous, there is a tipping point though  Tongue So, kind of the same like Tim Wink

I used a set up that I have used before and for some inexplicable reason ( probably the wine) I thought it would be a good idea to lower a couple of the gear ratios!!! death

I made a stupid beginners mistake raising the left front tire pressure after my last race fuel test...

So my LF overcooked after a while and I was not able to keep the pace, so I left in frustration Roll Eyes

Been there done that, nowadays don't make any late race adjustments anymore, only when I ran out of practise/prepping and still have to tune a setup...
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« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2016, 10:44:51 AM +0100 »

Two large glasses of wine = at least 2 bad down shifts and over revving

The moral is don't drink and drive  Undecided

I suppose the English drink their wine as well in pints? Grin Not always, but usually drink a few beers when racing, makes me less nervous, there is a tipping point though  Tongue So, kind of the same like Tim Wink


I did the alcohol versus thc test once & found thc to impair performance less than alcohol but these days I'm a clean driver/racer & I seem to be able to concentrate better & make less mistakes as a result ... or is it that I'm physically fit now too ?
I dunno, but I do believe fitness makes a difference to concentration & therefore performance. That said, there's no replacement for talent & I don't have that in bucket loads that's for sure Cheesy
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« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2016, 01:38:28 PM +0100 »

Congratulations on your maiden victory, Roo!  Great job.  And overdue, too, imo.

Well done to Robert for a fine P2 on home turf.  Nice recovery by Tris for rounding out the podium.

Hard luck for Axel and Clive.  One way to avoid the goofy steering wheel glitch, Clive, is to nominate the lite carset instead of the full GP65 graphics option.  In qualifying, I browsed around in the cockpits of others and noticed that the BT11 pilots had anything but a proper steering wheel facing them.  Initially, I saw a square with the snow storm you typically see when you invert your ride.  Later, in viewing the replay cap, that image was exchanged for what looked like a nose skin of a Rob Walker car.  Curious indeed.

My race went very well.  Just too bloody slow.  Or rather, you guys are too bloody fast!  LOL!  Initially, I had a good scrap going with Carlos...he and I seem to be engaging in many fine duels of late; cool!...but I managed to edge away bit by bit as the race progressed.  Dean fell off in Tarzan and I hoped to be able to latch onto him but no, he edged away.  Ray had recovered from his early offs to challenge and I let him by without a fight as clearly, he was substantially faster and I had hopes that he'd row me back up to Dean where I might get another shot at the red car.  Nope.  Couldn't manage that either.

I find Zandvoort a good challenge and enjoy my time there but it is so very tiring.  So many back and forths wear on me.  With this in mind, by half-distance, I resolved to just get the Honda home incident-free and, in that, I at least managed to succeed.
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« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2016, 02:12:04 PM +0100 »

You may be right about the "lite" carset Doni, but I have never had this problem before, although I have read about others suffering? I would not have put Zandvoort as a graphics heavy circuit, and I am positive I would have raced the BT11 there at some time in the past.

Turning off the drivers arms ( and steering wheel) was a simple fix that allowed me to see the rev counter, but it did feel a little odd to have that empty cockpit.

Guess I will have to wait and see what happens at the next round.  Undecided
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« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2016, 02:59:37 PM +0100 »

The Brabham wheel is an old problem, fixed after many years, and now forgotten.  Here is the fix :
http://home.planet.nl/~aquisate/Downloads.htm  Download : 65mod Raised.  

I suggest everyone grabs this, and keeps a copy for future installs.  MECH has combined the wheel fix with cars which do not drag on the road unrealistically.  If you run at minimum height, the fix corrects height & wheel.
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