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July 15, 2018, 09:40:14 PM +0100 - Monza (Full 10km) - UKGPL Season 33 (2018) 1955 Grand Prix
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Clive Loynes
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Mercedes W196 SL F1 1955 3 +0.579
135.870mph
1 47:14.056
134.200mph
17 2:44.802
135.753mph
Continental  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Lancia D50 F1 1955 5 +0.924
135.586mph
2 +0.458
134.179mph
17 2:44.741
135.803mph
Pirelli  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Lancia D50 F1 1955 2 +0.393
136.024mph
3 +13.953
133.543mph
17 2:44.703
135.835mph
Pirelli  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
Mercedes W196 SL F1 1955 7 +2.152
134.585mph
4 +21.092
133.209mph
17 2:45.233
135.399mph
Continental  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Ferrari 555 SS F1 1955 10 +3.576
133.442mph
5 +49.233
131.909mph
17 2:46.875
134.067mph
Englebert  
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
Gordini T16 F1 1955 8 +2.915
133.970mph
6 +1:07.182
131.093mph
17 2:47.398
133.648mph
Englebert  
DLogan
 
Maserati 250F F1 1955 11 +5.078
132.257mph
7 +10L
124.102mph
7 2:45.945
134.818mph
Disco
Pirelli  
francesco
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Ferrari 555 SS F1 1955 9 +3.234
133.714mph
8 +13L
130.615mph
4 2:47.024
133.947mph
Disco
Englebert  
Ziu Bacubacu
  OLD SCHOOL RACING TEAM
Lancia D50 F1 1955 4 +0.772
135.711mph
9 +0.079
130.600mph
4 2:49.180
132.240mph
Disco
Pirelli  
Jeep
 TEAM-GTLDK
Mercedes W196 SL F1 1955 1 2:44.081
136.350mph
10 +15L
131.891mph
2 2:45.960
134.806mph
Disco
Continental  
uli
 
Ferrari 555 SS F1 1955 6 +2.152
134.585mph
11 +16L
126.494mph
1 2:54.875
127.934mph
Disco
Englebert  
4 UKGPL
 
Lancia D50 F1 1955 12 12 DNS ---
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{unknown}  

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Summary
Just 1 reported incident.


Server replay time: 0h14m08s

Lap 5 – Curva Nord – Ziu Bacubacu and Francesco Molteni
Francesco and Ziu have been trading places for a couple of laps. As the cars approach Curva Nord, Ziu has a great draft and is travelling 7mph faster than Francesco. He moves to the right to take the inside line but Francesco moves across forcing Ziu onto the hard standing to the side of the main track. The hard standing comes to an abrupt end leaving Ziu with no option but to take to the grass. Ziu cannot maintain control and he spins into Francesco taking both cars out of the race.

On lap 4, Ziu made a successful overtake at the same corner when he achieved 100% overlap at replay time 0h1m16s. This overlap was achieved before the second to last bollard. However, on lap 5 when he tried the same manoeuvre he didn’t achieve 100% overlap until a long way after the last bollard (replay time 0h14m07s). Ziu should have realised that he wasn’t in as good a position on lap 5 as he had been on lap 4 and he would have been wise to back out of the manoeuvre.

Having just been passed the lap before on the same corner, Francesco should have been prepared for an attack by Ziu and should have been monitoring his mirrors. Ziu clearly disappears from Francesco’s mirrors on the approach to Curva Nord so Francesco should have known that Ziu would be on his inside. It would have been wise for Francesco to leave much more room for Ziu than he did. Any defensive move to the inside should have been made much earlier whilst Ziu was in full view and BEFORE Ziu made his move.

The normal guidelines which address the % overlap required when attempting a pass are aimed at corners where the cars turn-in towards a definite apex. The banked corners are rather a special case in that they are more like straights and don’t have a conventional apex. Ziu made his move to the inside at replay time 0h14m05s. As Ziu comes into full view in Francesco's right hand mirror, Francesco also moves across. It is difficult to prove Francesco moved across in response Ziu’s move but it should have been obvious that once Ziu had disappeared from view that Francesco had to leave room.

Both drivers could have done something to avoid contact so neither driver can be held solely responsible. Consequently blame cannot be wholly apportioned to one driver and hence this collision has to be called a racing incident.

It must be noted that the declaration of a racing incident does not mean both drivers are exonerated. Rather both drivers are to some degree culpable, they should consider their actions and endeavour to avoid similar incidents in the future.

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« on: July 06, 2018, 10:53:38 PM +0100 »

1955 Grand Prix - Round 5 – Monza 10k

The fifth race in the 1955 Grand Prix series finds us in Italy at the Cathedral of Speed. The Autodromo Nazionale Monza is a race track located near the city of Monza, north of Milan.  Built in the Royal Villa of Monza park in a woodland setting, the circuit has gone through numerous changes over the years.  Perhaps the most striking feature in the park is the steep banked (sopraelevata) curves on the now defunct 10Km variant, first used in 1955.  The original circuit (used between 1922 and 1933) also had an oval section but the banked curves were not as wide or as steep as the later 1955 variant.  The banked circuit was used on four occasions for Formula 1 races; in 1955, 1956, 1960 and finally in 1961 when it was decided that Formula 1 cars were just too fast to be safe on the oval track.   The banked oval section was last used in any capacity in 1969.  From 1962 onwards, the Formula 1 Grand Prix was held on the "road circuit" which by the early 1970s was also deemed to be too fast for Formula 1 cars.  Two chicanes were introduced for 1972 Italian Grand Prix, one at the Ascari curve and another on the approach to the Curva Grande.  Tonight we will relive the dramatic race in 1955 on the full 10Km circuit complete with steep bankings and no chicanes.

Carefully read the rules on the championship standings page.

Race listiGOR
ServerUKGPL_4
IP address109.180.233.194
Date15-07-2018
Trackmonza10k
Mod55F1 with 60fpsV2newmod
Damage PRO long
Race time~ 21:30 UK time
Qualifying 20:45 UK time - 45 minutes
Race length17 laps
Replay here

Please restrict chat to emergency messages only including at the end of the race until ALL drivers still racing have crossed the line.

Password: see above
Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page

Handicapping and chassis allocation.
This season the 1955 Grand Prix cars will be using a token system which allows drivers to purchase any chassis of their choice for a given number of tokens as published on the championship standings page. Drivers classed as Amateurs will be allocated an additional 10 tokens.  The token allocation will not be managed in SRou this season so (unlike the 67F1 Works and 67F1 Privateer divisions) the tokens available to each driver will not appear in the championship table (when the mouse pointer is hovered over the driver's total).  Rather, the available tokens will be published in the race announcement. See table below.

Available Tokens:
Note: These are the tokens available to each driver before the 10 tokens are added for making the race start.

Driver   TokensStatus
bagrupp
17
Pro
Clive Loynes
20
Pro
Doni Yourth
30
Pro
EvilClive
13
Pro
fpolicardi
8
Am
francesco   
15
Am
Phil Thornton
15
Am
DLogan
16
Am
Gareth
20
Am
Jeep
12
Am
Uli   
8
Pro
FullMetalGasket
50
Pro
Will Tway
10
Pro
Baab
18
Am
Cookie
10
Pro
Samb
10
Pro
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« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2018, 09:29:59 AM +0100 »

Hi Phil, Track shows turin55
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« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2018, 09:57:46 AM +0100 »

Hi Phil, Track shows turin55
Opps.  Thanks, I'll fix that.
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« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2018, 01:34:03 PM +0100 »

I am not racing with mod55 this season but do you know there will be the World Cup final this day (...between England and France, of course  Cheesy ) ?
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« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2018, 01:45:08 PM +0100 »

I am not racing with mod55 this season but do you know there will be the World Cup final this day (...between England and France, of course  Cheesy ) ?

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A matter of little/no significance, no matter who is playing.

Please don't change the time/date of the race to something that I can't attend.






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« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2018, 07:00:03 PM +0100 »

Ooo!  Spotted a test server.  Hope it's still there when I have finished my dinner!  Roll Eyes





Humph!  No it wasn't.  :-(

It is very difficult to run these cars close together and the only chance that we get is race day, which serves to increase the number of collisions. 

If the first time that you have slip-streamed someone towards Parabolica is lap one of the actual race, then chances are that you will wind up in the sand.  Hopefully on your own.
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« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2018, 07:53:08 PM +0100 »

I can restart the server and set it to 55s at Monza10k Wink

Was just testing the servers RAM, 2x2GB 1066 or 1x4GB 1600...


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LOL I saw you in igor on Tim's server and started my race PC, just to see that igor is down now...
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« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2018, 08:42:40 PM +0100 »

I can restart the server and set it to 55s at Monza10k Wink

Was just testing the servers RAM, 2x2GB 1066 or 1x4GB 1600...


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LOL I saw you in igor on Tim's server and started my race PC, just to see that igor is down now...

Cheers Axel.
That's my server but no point in doing anything if the racelist is down.

Ta
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« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2018, 04:04:01 PM +0100 »

I am still testing my server at iGOR
running now 55s M10k
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« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2018, 05:10:06 PM +0100 »

I am still testing my server at iGOR
running now 55s M10k

Yep, spotted it.  But if you could keep it going this evening when I can get to it that would be great.
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« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2018, 09:26:58 AM +0100 »

I am still testing my server at iGOR
running now 55s M10k

Thanks for the practice yesterday Axel.  Very useful.

I can go around all day with little drama but put one other car on the track and things happen!   Grin
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« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2018, 02:27:25 PM +0100 »

The race server (UKGPL_4) is up for testing. Please make sure you can connect and take Clive's advice and try to practice with some real opposition.
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« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2018, 03:58:58 PM +0100 »

The race server (UKGPL_4) is up for testing. Please make sure you can connect and take Clive's advice and try to practice with some real opposition.

Well I can see it!  Just hope that it is still there by the time that I can get to it! 
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« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2018, 09:21:12 PM +0100 »

The race server (UKGPL_4) is up for testing. Please make sure you can connect and take Clive's advice and try to practice with some real opposition.

Joined server ok but no one to play with. :-(
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« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2018, 01:38:09 PM +0100 »

Practice server back up again. Hopefully someone will want to play today Clive  Cheesy
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