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July 14, 2019, 09:36:59 PM +0100 - Hockenheim (1965-2001) - UKGPL Season 35 (2019) 1967 F1
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
bagrupp
 Team Groundhog
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 2 +0.711
135.583mph
1 51:12.428
134.000mph
27 1:52.660
135.348mph
Goodyear  
AnGex
 Black Night Racing
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 7 +1.794
134.290mph
2 +45.328
132.052mph
27 1:53.793
134.001mph
Firestone  
MagicArsouille
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 14 +3.749
132.017mph
3 +58.538
131.495mph
27 1:51.971
136.181mph
Firestone  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 9 +2.193
133.820mph
4 +1:06.184
131.174mph
27 1:53.903
133.871mph
Goodyear  
GregT
 Team Baarf
BRM P115 F1 1967 12 +3.172
132.680mph
5 +1:22.128
130.511mph
27 1:54.448
133.234mph
Goodyear  
Pepe Higdon
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 11 +2.700
133.227mph
6 +1:34.573
129.999mph
27 1:54.931
132.674mph
Goodyear  
Eric Bilodeau
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 16 +4.398
131.279mph
7 +1:50.252
129.358mph
27 1:56.064
131.379mph
Firestone  
Ricardo Valim da Silva
 
BRM P115 F1 1967 13 +3.413
132.402mph
8 +1L
128.991mph
26 1:55.074
132.509mph
Goodyear  
Dulima
 
Honda RA300 F1 1967 15 +3.860
131.890mph
9 +4.701
128.794mph
26 1:56.308
131.103mph
Firestone  
francesco
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 10 +2.537
133.417mph
10 +12.757
128.457mph
26 1:54.963
132.637mph
Firestone  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 3 +0.791
135.487mph
11 +31.009
127.702mph
26 1:55.528
131.988mph
Firestone  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
BRM P115 F1 1967 17 +5.523
130.020mph
12 +40.923
127.296mph
26 1:56.157
131.274mph
Goodyear  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 8 +2.035
134.006mph
13 +13L
129.454mph
14 1:54.550
133.115mph
Disco
Firestone  
Tim Roedl
 Antipasti Racing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 1 1:51.754
136.446mph
14 +41.731
126.259mph
14 1:53.485
134.365mph
Disco
Firestone  
JonnyO
 Team Coyote
BRM P115 F1 1967 5 +1.492
134.648mph
15 +27L
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Disco
Goodyear  
Gareth
 
BRM P115 F1 1967 6 +1.744
134.349mph
16
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Disco
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 4 +1.406
134.750mph
17 DNS ---
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Firestone  
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Goodyear  

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« on: July 10, 2019, 09:57:05 PM +0100 »

Season 35 – 1967 F1 – Round 2 – Hockenheim

The second race in the 1967 F1 series finds us at Hockenheim in Germany. The track was originally called "Dreieckskurs" (triangle course) and was built in 1932 using roads in the forest as an alternative to the Wildpark-Circuit in Karlsruhe. The track was used for motorcycle racing and was expanded to be used as test track for Mercedes-Benz and Auto Union in 1936. In 1938 the track was drastically shortened to 7.5 kilometres and it was renamed the "Kurpfalzring". This name was used until 1947 when the unchanged layout was renamed again to "Hockenheimring". This version of the circuit, which was used in 1955, consisted of the original two long straights, with the Ostkurve in the forest and the original hairpin inside Hockenheim joining them together. In 1965, when the new Autobahn A 6 separated the village from the main part of the track, an updated version of Hockenheim circuit was built, which incorporated a new "Motodrom" stadium section. Two fast chicanes were added after Jim Clark was killed on 7 April 1968 in a Formula 2 racing accident.  A small memorial was placed at the site of his accident near the first chicane. In order to improve safety even further, the track was lined with crash barriers in 1970. But the track was still dangerous and claimed the life of Patrick Depailler in 1980. So in 1982, the first chicane was made slower and a third chicane was added at the Ostkurve (east curve). In the early 2000s, Formula 1 officials demanded the 6.823 km (4.240 mi) track be shortened and threatened to discontinue racing there.  So the state government of Baden-Württemberg secured the financing for a redesign by Hermann Tilke ready for the 2002 German Grand Prix. The new "Tilke Track" was not universally popular and many drivers preferred the long circuit. Sadly the old circuit was torn up and replanted with trees thereby preventing any chance of reinstating the long circuit for Formula 1 or indeed using it for historic car races.

Tonight we will be using the 1967 version of the long track that doesn't have the three chicanes.

The full time drivers can start to practice as soon as the server is available.  Reserve drivers can also join as soon as the server becomes available but must leave the server with 35 minutes of qualifying left, for a total of 5 minutes; this will allow any remaining full timers to join.  If there is enough space on the grid, the reserve drivers will be able to rejoin when there are 30 mins of qualifying left.  
 
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Race listiGOR
ServerUKGPL_4
IP address46.69.108.209
Date14-07-2019
Track Directoryhockenhm
Mod67F1 with 60fpsV2newmod
Damage INT long (Works drivers - NO Shift R, Privateer drivers ONE Shift R)
Race time~ 21:30 UK time (BST, GMT + 1)
Qualifying 45 minutes @ 20:45 UK time (BST, GMT + 1)
Race length27 laps
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If the official replay site is unavailable, the server replay can be downloaded from this temporary location.

Password: see above

Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page

There is no Red Zone. Moderating will be on reported incidents only. Remember that lap 1 incidents carry an additional penalty place.

The chassis token system is explained on the championship standings page. Please ensure you choose a chassis that is within your budget, which can be seen by hovering the mouse over your points total in the standings.

Replays can be found by clicking on the link in the top left corner of the UKGPL homepage.

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« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2019, 09:30:26 PM +0100 »

The race server (UKGPL4) is up on IGOR ready for you to check your connections (via IGOR or IP). I know a few people have been having trouble recently, please don't leave it until the race to find out if you have a problem.
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« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2019, 09:22:51 AM +0100 »

Very surprised that there are no "Lap Records" listed with this announcement. I usually use those times as a guide to how quick ( or not) a competitive lap should be.
But am I right to think that we have only used Hockenheim for fun races over the last few years??? Even so I would have thought that somewhere in our archives there would be a few records?
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« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2019, 10:47:36 AM +0100 »

try here

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&location=17&circuit=388

Just had a few laps on UKGPL4 no probs at all.
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« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2019, 12:08:15 PM +0100 »

I changed it, in the SROU database there are different track layouts...
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« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2019, 12:37:19 PM +0100 »

Thanks guys.
I did not think that the layout had changed that much to affect the lap times, but maybe it has and I had not noticed  Wink Not so grateful for showing me that I need to be running 1:52's or 1:51's to be competitive !!! lol
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« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2019, 12:53:26 PM +0100 »

The top times are very much "tow" times  Wink

We are racing the 67 layout without chicanes, you can't compare it with todays layout  Grin


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« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2019, 01:53:37 PM +0100 »

Im nipping under 1:55 in the BRM solo, < 1:52 with an Eagle/Lotus and Joe Cocker is do-able. Wink
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« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2019, 10:44:21 PM +0100 »

I come very late( 5 mn to go !! ) whith no setup ferrari ....so ,whith 1 lap qualif ,and no setup for the race ( fuel ), I miss the start....unfortunatly, my pit box was after the S/F line, so I start whith 1 lap handicap !....so I know it's impossible mission to go back in front ...but just for funI decide to see till where I can go ....after few laps my engine blow up .....I was quite frustrated ....and do shift-r reflex !!....so I was on track and decide to race just for fun ...I hope to not disturb the other pilotes  and I think it was ok!....
I promess a better preparation for the next one ...

cua next one
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« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2019, 11:09:03 PM +0100 »

Apologies to Johnny and Phil for L1 T1 crash, my fault, I pressed brake pedal but nothing happened and hit Johnny and Phil during my aereo tonneau. Johnny had to retire on flame, while me and Phil could restart last  Embarrassed
Soon after I gained some position cause T2 pileup and had a nice battle with Greg and Axel for a while. Some others misfortune gifted me a podium, even if I had thought that Tris was racing in 3rd position knowing he had lost a lap starting from pit, now he explained how it went.
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« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2019, 11:09:25 PM +0100 »

Corrected the race results to credit Tris with the first lap which GPL dropped because he started from the pit lane. However this will become a DQ because Works drivers are not allowed a shift-R.

Very enjoyable race for me. I qualified in 3rd place due to a clock smash. I think one of my laps was 4 seconds faster because of a bit of warp. I got a decent start so I didn't hold anyone up but I got clobbered by a flying Brabham in T1 and I ended up last (apart from Tris) so I ended up in my true qualifying place after all.  After that I had good battles with Fran, Ricardo and David culminating in a last lap side-by-side dice in the stadium section. Good clean racing, thanks Fran, Ricardo and David it was fun.

Sorry to see my new team mate Tim drop out (with engine trouble?) after setting a super pole time in the Honda!
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« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2019, 12:39:40 AM +0100 »

Gratulations to all finishers and especially to the podium & Bastian for P1!

In my case I was to hasty at Ostkurve and tried to overtake on the outside which led to a contact with Bastian and my flewoff Sad
Another unconcentrated to late braking two laps later at Nordkurve almost finished my car and brought a topspeed degrese of 35km/h -sh*t happens!

cu next time, back strong Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2019, 04:08:11 AM +0100 »

With about ten minutes to go in qualifying, I was sitting 10th overall. That's about as well as I could ever expect to do with 17 cars ---Works/Privateers combined --- in the field. My problem was that there were at least five drivers behind me who have absolutely annihilated me at various tracks around the world in different leagues and seasons. I did the only sensible thing I could think of and that was to turn around and drive backward behind the pit to produce a DQ and grid myself in last place.

That strategy turned out to be completely useless with all the L1 crashes and off-course excursions, and at the beginning of L2 I found myself running 7th. In the next few laps I dropped a couple of places as Greg and Fulvio overtook me. But soon I was back in 6th, having overtaken slower cars. By L15 when Tristan finally caught me, the scoreboard was still showing him a lap down, and later on that lap when Axel crashed I found myself in 5th. And there I stayed for the remainder of the race, gradually losing ground to Greg but gaining ground on Eric.

It’s no secret that I’m one of the slowest drivers in the Privateer division, but the idea that I could hold off guys like Eduardo, Ricardo, and Eric --- guys who normally beat me like a rented mule --- for 20+ laps was not something I wanted to think about today. So I didn’t think about them at all. I simply concentrated on getting through Ostkurve each lap, reminding myself that it was probably no accident (so to speak) that it was today’s password.

Finally, as one of the five Americans who watches the Tour de France from start to finish every day, I want to give a shout out to Peter Sagan, the rider I want most to be like when I grow up. He isn’t the fastest rider in the field but he’s there at the end, nearly every day. And any day that I can finish just 12 seconds behind Greg Taber and on the same lap as the winner is one I won’t be complaining about for a millisecond.   Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2019, 08:49:10 AM +0100 »

Thx Tim. I didn't feel the touch and tried to be as much on the inside line as possible.
I didn't watch the replay, just hope it was not my fault you went off.

After you vanished, it was a lonely race with tris also having problem no one competitive seems to have credits for a competitive car after monza. (which i sadly missed)

So it was just a concentration issue after a long day with many activities. Just angry that the usual backmarker does not give the racing line while lapping, even
fights for his "position" and endangers my race. but some people are allowed to do what they want...

Grats to fulvio for third and nice to see a big grid
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« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2019, 10:04:09 AM +0100 »

I thought that a few tweaks to my setup for the Honda might have allowed me to compete for a podium place. I had dragged myself towards the front of the grid and starting in 4th place would allow me to pick up some slipstream, so everything was falling into place, until............................

With about 10 seconds left before the end of qualifying I had a screen freeze  Undecided. I had to switch off my PC and reboot, but by the time I had GPL ready again, the race had started and I could not join the server. Sad

That was an anti climax, to say the least.

grats to all podium places and finishers. I was seriously impressed with Phil's qually time in the Honda, but then he had to go and spoil the story by admitting that he had a clock smash lol. Next time keep it quiet Phil  Wink
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