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February 09, 2020, 09:40:31 PM +0000 - Spa (1947-78) - UKGPL Season 36 (2020) 1955 GP
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
GregT
 Team Baarf
Maserati 250F F1 1955 2 +0.911
130.895mph
1 44:32.096
130.000mph
11 4:01.685
130.663mph
Pirelli  
Doni Yourth
 Blue Moose Racing
Mercedes W196 F1 1955 4 +3.992
129.244mph
2 +26.270
128.735mph
11 4:01.688
130.662mph
Continental  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
Lancia D50 F1 1955 8 +6.526
127.917mph
3 +1:11.034
126.634mph
11 4:05.499
128.633mph
Pirelli  
Dulima
 
Ferrari 625 F1 1955 6 +4.886
128.773mph
4 +1:12.772
126.554mph
11 4:05.382
128.695mph
Englebert  
tagomago
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Lancia D50 F1 1955 9 +7.510
127.410mph
5 +1:45.664
125.055mph
11 4:08.678
126.989mph
Pirelli  
JonnyO
 Team Coyote
Gordini T16 F1 1955 12 +21.542
120.583mph
6 +4:06.746
119.011mph
11 4:16.473
123.129mph
Englebert  
francesco
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Lancia D50 F1 1955 5 +4.837
128.799mph
7 +3L
125.782mph
8 4:07.651
127.516mph
Disco
Pirelli  
bagrupp
 Team Groundhog
Mercedes W196 F1 1955 10 +8.440
126.933mph
8 +5L
125.422mph
6 4:05.100
128.843mph
Disco
Continental  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Lancia D50 F1 1955 3 +1.235
130.719mph
9 +1.377
125.308mph
6 4:01.202
130.925mph
Disco
Pirelli  
PaulV
 Blue Moose Racing
Mercedes W196 SL F1 1955 15 10 +1:49.892
116.917mph
6 4:14.237
124.212mph
Disco
Continental  
Enrique Farina
 
Maserati 250F F1 1955 16 11 +6L
123.424mph
5 4:09.131
126.758mph
Disco
Pirelli  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Ferrari 625 F1 1955 7 +5.590
128.404mph
12 +8L
123.132mph
3 4:06.203
128.266mph
Disco
Englebert  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Lancia D50 F1 1955 1 4:00.347
131.391mph
13 +10L
128.540mph
1 4:07.134
127.782mph
Disco
Pirelli  
covisi2016
 
Mercedes W196 SL F1 1955 11 +10.927
125.677mph
14 +11L
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Disco
Continental  
Durval Becho
 
Ferrari 625 F1 1955 13 +29.126
117.189mph
15
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0 ---
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Disco
Englebert  
Clive Loynes
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Gordini T16 F1 1955 17 16
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0 ---
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engine
Englebert  
4 UKGPL
 
Lancia D50 F1 1955 14 17 DNS ---
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{unknown}  

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Summary
A race of attrition with numerous drivers falling foul of this unforgiving track. Greg Taber eventually emerged as the winner in a Maserati pressed all the way by Doni in a Silver Arrow. A somewhat distant third place went to Phil Thornton in a rather battered Lancia.


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Lap 1 – Eau Rouge – Bastian Grupp, Durval Beccho, Francesco Molteni, Fulvio Policardi, Phil Thornton and Luiz Covisi

Dulima gets a great start in his Ferrari and gets the drop on Francesco. He dives into Eau Rouge with Francesco on his tail, but he has a bit of a wobble and Francesco easies off to avoid what looked like a possible spinning Ferrari. However, Dulima recovers and powers ahead but Fulvio is caught out by Francesco’s slowing Lancia. Contact is made and it starts a concertina with several cars piling into the back of each other. Thankfully most of the cars could continue without any apparent damage except for the unfortunate Luiz Covisi who was left stuck on the Armco and out of the race.

It would be harsh to apportion blame to a single individual for this incident. It is incumbent on all drivers to take care on the first corner, especially in these cars where the lack of effective brakes makes avoiding action very difficult. However, Fulvio Policardi, Phil Thornton and Bastian Grupp all made contact with the car ahead which suggests they were all driving a little too close and consequently they were more accountable for the pile-up than were the rest of the unfortunate participants. All drivers are encouraged to look beyond the car immediately in front in order to anticipate unfolding events and they should leave a sufficiently large gap such that some form of avoiding action would be possible in the event of an incident.

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« on: February 03, 2020, 09:49:38 PM +0000 »

Season 36 – 1955 Grand Prix – Round 2 – Spa-Francorchamps

The second race in the 1955 Grand Prix series sees us remaining in Belgium with just a short hop to Spa-Francorchamps. Designed in 1920 the original triangle-shaped course used public roads between the Belgian towns of Francorchamps, Malmedy, and Stavelot. The track was intended to have hosted its inaugural race in August 1921, however the first car race was held at the circuit in 1922. Spa was the fastest road circuit in Europe at the time, and it had a nasty reputation for being dangerous and very fast- it was a circuit known to be one for the brave, and most drivers were frightened of it. The old Spa circuit was unique in that speeds were consistently high with hardly any let-up at all for 3–4 minutes. This made it an extraordinarily difficult mental challenge (& ridiculously easy to crash)..
 
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ServerUKGPL_4
IP address77.102.28.179
Date09-02-2020
TrackSpa '67
Mod55GP with 60fpsV2newmod
Damage PRO long
Race time~ 21:30 UK time
Qualifying 20:45 UK time - 45 minutes
Race length11 laps
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The 1955 Grand Prix cars will be using a token system which allows drivers to purchase any chassis of their choice for a given number of tokens as published on the championship standings page. Drivers classed as Juniors will be allocated an additional 10 tokens.  The tokens available to each driver will be published in the race announcement. See table below.

Available Tokens:
Note: These are the tokens available to each driver before the 10 tokens are added for making the race start.

Driver        Tokens  Status
bagrupp
20
Senior
Clive Loynes
15
Senior
Doni Yourth
20
Senior
Dulima
15
Senior
EvilClive
15
Senior
fpolicardi
8
Senior
GregT
20
Senior
JonnyO
20
Senior
Ziu Bacubacu
10
Senior
5117sebas
20
Junior
Durval Becho
20
Junior
enrique farina
30
Junior
francesco
18
Junior
Gareth
20
Junior
luiz covisi
25
Junior
PaulV
18
Junior
Phil Thornton
20
Junior
Ricardo Valim da Silva
20
Junior
tagomago
20
Junior
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« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2020, 02:55:03 PM +0000 »

At the last moment, maybe I Will take a friend to the hospital in São Paulo.It will only confirm at the last moment.So my participation is not certain.
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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2020, 05:55:58 PM +0000 »

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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2020, 07:55:20 PM +0000 »

At the last moment, maybe I Will take a friend to the hospital in São Paulo.It will only confirm at the last moment.So my participation is not certain.
I hope your friend is OK JonnyO. Real life is always more important than GPL but it would be great if you can make the race  thumbup2
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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2020, 10:13:10 PM +0000 »

Stupid incident near the end of the race but ,i noticed,that on this track there are sudden drop of FR mainly at the eau rouge but also on other parts.Many time i was in difficult.
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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2020, 10:31:48 PM +0000 »

Stupid incident near the end of the race but ,i noticed,that on this track there are sudden drop of FR mainly at the eau rouge but also on other parts.Many time i was in difficult.
Sorry Francesco and all for T1 crash, but there was a little glimps by your car and even I was very cautious I touched you and so on... Sad
Later I blew my engine at 4 lap even if I didn't overrev, but I suspect the T1 crash had brought some damage.
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« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2020, 10:37:02 PM +0000 »

I've never seen so many blown engines.

The clockwork on my Gordini packed up just after Les Combes on lap 1!

I have added results to GPLWeekly.

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« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2020, 10:37:22 PM +0000 »

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Sorry Francesco and all for T1 crash,
The second incident ,made by myself,was the worst.
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« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2020, 10:38:54 PM +0000 »

Thanks all for racing  Wink

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« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2020, 10:46:26 PM +0000 »

Good race for me, enjoyed a close battle with Dulima. We gave each other room and swapped places a few times. Difficult to do safely in these cars.

Clive I notice you turned up late and missed starting a qually lap by 10 seconds. Pity about your engine too. Hopefully, that is 2 bits of bad luck over in one race Wink.

Sorry to see your engine pack up Axel but at least you made it half way to bag some decent points.
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« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2020, 10:51:40 PM +0000 »

Tagomago in wich way you post the images?i have understood nothing until now.
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« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2020, 11:02:05 PM +0000 »

I've loaded the chassis the drivers used into the token calculator spreadsheet.  For the next race the available tokens will be as declared in the table below (the table will also appear in the next race announcement).  The calculated values are automated but selecting the cars is a manual process so please check your tokens to make sure I haven't made a silly error. There was no token overspend for this round so no one is disqualified.

Driver        Tokens  Status
bagrupp
12
Senior
Clive Loynes
25
Senior
Doni Yourth
12
Senior
Dulima
15
Senior
EvilClive
10
Senior
fpolicardi
8
Senior
GregT
18
Senior
JonnyO
30
Senior
Ziu Bacubacu
10
Senior
5117sebas
20
Junior
Durval Becho
20
Junior
enrique farina
28
Junior
francesco
13
Junior
Gareth
20
Junior
luiz covisi
15
Junior
PaulV
8
Junior
Phil Thornton
15
Junior
Ricardo Valim da Silva
20
Junior
tagomago
15
Junior
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« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2020, 11:37:23 PM +0000 »

I also had frame problems at the beginning, I think he was the big cause of the big one

The hands went apart and I saw Phill approaching back to back.

He passed me but I managed to stay close to him, the rest of the race, it was a great battle, very clean

I reached it with the help of the vacuum  and at the end of the last corner, it was there that, during the whole battle, I was thinking of pouting

So, in the end, I took a chance and ran out of brakes, thank god i didn't take Phill out of the race, I hit him and he didn't roll over, it would be a sad ending for both of us.

I returned the position that was rightfully his and cross the finish line.

Congratulations Greg for the victory and congratulations to the podium, Jonny had a great result with Gordini

GPL in the vein, see you next time!



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« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2020, 09:25:18 AM +0000 »



Clive I notice you turned up late and missed starting a qually lap by 10 seconds. Pity about your engine too. Hopefully, that is 2 bits of bad luck over in one race Wink.



Thanks Phil and well done on your podium.  At least it didn't cost me any Thornton Dollars!
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« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2020, 11:20:32 AM +0000 »

Grats to the podium and all who made it to the finish, it looks like the GPL gremlins were on a bonus for this race?? So many engine failures  Undecided

I was a little disappointed to see Clive Loynes arrive at the party a little late, but I suspect that real life was intervening and being the experienced and cunning protagonist that he is he played a tactical card to get his "starting money".  Wink
I had anticipated that Mr L would be running the W196 and looking for revenge for Zolder, so I actually spent a little time doing some offline practice for this race in the Lancia. That worked well in quali, where I almost went sub 4:00 without any slipstream, but the plan fizzled out in the race after 2 laps with a smoking engine  Sad. I was looking forward to enjoying some slipstream in the race and possibly knocking 3-4 secs off that time, but that did not happen.
I had resigned myself to this race being a slipstream festival, where any places and points would be decided on the last lap. I did remember to save my race replay and I think I gave my engine a nudge towards oblivion on lap 1, with one bad downshift and maybe a couple of acceleration points where I was spinning the rear wheels and got too close to the 8500 rev limit....lesson learned hopefully  Roll Eyes
This old Spa circuit is great because it highlights the insane speed of these old cars, but IMHO it does not have enough braking zones to force some management of the brake fade. I had all the brakes I needed for stopping at La Source, with enough left over for a dab into Eau Rouge and then time to recover for Les Coombes. After that there are no brakes needed until La Source again, just keep your right foot planted on the go pedal  Grin
Well done to my Blue Moose teammate Doni, for keeping it together for 2nd place  thumbup1
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