UKGPL Season 44 (Spring 2024) 1955 GP (Works) - Hockenheim - Feb 18

[Hristo Itchov]

A shame that Dimi was not in the mix. see you next round DD.
 
The brakes in these cars are usually what decides the race, by avoiding excursions and mistakes.
 I have come to the conclusion that you are partially correct 30-40% is down to the guy in front seeing you coming and taking whatever avoiding action he can. But, I think it is a little more complicated.
 At any corner there are ( at least) 2 cars involved and either car may have more, or less, brake capacity available and we cannot know what our opponent has.
 
So, if the car behind has more brake available he might intend to go deeper into the corner than on the last lap, but the car ahead has used up his brakes and slows earlier. Now the car behind suddenly needs extra braking to avoid running into the car ahead and he can forget about hitting the apex at the best speed !!! As we know the braking effect is on a knife edge, there is no "extra" stopping power in the 55's.
Or, the car behind has used his brakes earlier in the lap and is now gauging his braking point by the gap to the car ahead. Not a problem if the car ahead has also used up his brakes, but if he has saved some brakes he will go deeper and slow down much quicker..................with predictable results.

So I now try to be ultra careful in the braking areas ( As you spotted last night I can still get it wrong  ) Outbraking someone in these cars is a very risky business!!!
 

Good points, Evil, and I agree! It's always a guessing game for both drivers and it gets even more complicated when you have 3 or 4 involved, like we had yesterday. I was quite scared in some moments with several cars arriving at speed towards the Stadium. You brake late, you risk hitting the car in front. You brake early, you risk getting hit from behind. It requires everyone to forget about getting an advantage and just lift up earlier than potentially possible.

My Lancia in particular was going through its yellow brake temperature range in just half a second or so. Even when I had seemingly green brakes down the straight, it would fade away completely so fast under braking...

I like the fading effect, as it adds an extra dimension to racing, but I wish it wasn't so extreme and that it didn't have only 3 distinct levels, but be a more gradual change (which I assume is how it was in real life).

[Phil Thornton]

Please note, the slipstream is so strong in this mod, if you are following someone in the braking zone and you run out of brakes you will accelerate and rear end them. In fact if I'm not mistaken in some circumstances, the slipstream will actually overcome the brakes.

[Clive Loynes]

My race started to fall apart on lap three when entering the stadium section.  I was following Hristo, Enrique and Jonathan and it appeared that Enrique was having a tentative look down the inside of Hristo when Jonathan decided(or his brakes did) that he was going to make it three abreast!

In the mayhem that ensued, Jonathan bounced off the side of Enrique for a very short route across the grass from which he emerged in second place.  Enrique was knocked sideways to the left and how he missed Hristo I don't know.

That left me in a nice spot sat behind Hristo but with my view filled with cars going in all directions I lost the back end and did a half spin onto the grass, which allowed the world and his mate to pass me.  Nobody actually hit me, I just didn't have the skill to keep it on the grey bit.

The next lap at the same point I managed to rear end Leo for which I do apologise.  I wasn't tail-gating and thought that I had left enough room but it transpired otherwise.  I thought that I was getting close but not that close and I don't think that it was much of a contact but the GPL Crash Engine had other ideas.  I didn't stop because it appeared to me as Leo shot off to the left that he only had three wheels.

I was trying to catch Fulvio after that and had Phil in his Lancia catching me.  I never made any progress with regard to Fulvio but had a good battle with Phil, which sadly he won.

That's three poor results but is probably still the best start to a season that I have had for some time!

See you in South Africa.

[Enrique Farina]

sorry phil  , my aplogise....
  somebody can help me about the problem of the race yestarday whit jonathan and I ? we need some patch or something like this for fix that problem??
  We would be grateful for any advice or help.

[JonathanStiener76]

My race started to fall apart on lap three when entering the stadium section.  I was following Hristo, Enrique and Jonathan and it appeared that Enrique was having a tentative look down the inside of Hristo when Jonathan decided(or his brakes did) that he was going to make it three abreast!

In the mayhem that ensued, Jonathan bounced off the side of Enrique for a very short route across the grass from which he emerged in second place.  Enrique was knocked sideways to the left and how he missed Hristo I don't know.

That left me in a nice spot sat behind Hristo but with my view filled with cars going in all directions I lost the back end and did a half spin onto the grass, which allowed the world and his mate to pass me.  Nobody actually hit me, I just didn't have the skill to keep it on the grey bit.

The next lap at the same point I managed to rear end Leo for which I do apologise.  I wasn't tail-gating and thought that I had left enough room but it transpired otherwise.  I thought that I was getting close but not that close and I don't think that it was much of a contact but the GPL Crash Engine had other ideas.  I didn't stop because it appeared to me as Leo shot off to the left that he only had three wheels.

I was trying to catch Fulvio after that and had Phil in his Lancia catching me.  I never made any progress with regard to Fulvio but had a good battle with Phil, which sadly he won.

That's three poor results but is probably still the best start to a season that I have had for some time!

See you in South Africa.

Definitely not intentional! LOL, It was the loss of brakes into that corner... Very lucky we all survived that one..

[Hristo Itchov]

sorry phil  , my aplogise....
  somebody can help me about the problem of the race yestarday whit jonathan and I ? we need some patch or something like this for fix that problem??
  We would be grateful for any advice or help.

Yes, we actually discussed it before the race here in this thread. Dave posted this link which contains several fixes:

https://gpladdons.the-fastlane.co.uk/trackaddons_list.php?q=(TrackID~equals~221)

[dave curtis]

sorry phil  , my aplogise....
  somebody can help me about the problem of the race yestarday whit jonathan and I ? we need some patch or something like this for fix that problem??
  We would be grateful for any advice or help.

Yes, we actually discussed it before the race here in this thread. Dave posted this link which contains several fixes:

https://gpladdons.the-fastlane.co.uk/trackaddons_list.php?q=(TrackID~equals~221)

Additionally, Cookie did zip his fully working hockenhm folder & provided a link in earlier post: HERE   so maybe rename your current folder & try downloading this instead.

[Phil Thornton]

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