Phil Thornton
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« on: February 28, 2024, 01:47:03 PM +0000 » |
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Season 44 - 1955GP (Works) - Round 4 – East LondonThe fourth race in the 1955 Grand Prix series finds us in South Africa. The race will be on the Prince George Circuit at East London. Opened in the 1930s, it hosted the South African Grand Prix in 1934, and again from 1936 to 1939 when racing was halted due to World War II. The original 23.4 km circuit was shortened to 17.7 km in 1936. It was further modified to meet the Formula One regulations in 1959 when the track was shortened again and built into a seaside amphitheatre. East London hosted three rounds of the F1 South African Grand Prix in the 1960s until the increasing power and speed of the cars meant that it became too small for Formula One. The race was moved to Kyalami. Tonight we will be using the 3.9 km long 1959 layout. Race list | = | iGOR | Server | = | UKGPL05_60fps | IP address | = | 146.199.1.65:32666 | Password | = | see above | GPL Mod | = | 55GP | Damage model | = | PRO | 60fps Patch | = | 60fpsV2newmod | Track download | = | East London 1967 | Track directory | = | eastlndn | Qualifying starts | = | 20:45 UK time - 45 minutes | Race starts | = | ~ 21:30 UK time | Race length | = | 26 laps | Replay | = | HERE |
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« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2024, 09:34:52 PM +0000 » |
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I got dropped just before the start and then server was not allowing reconnection.
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Phil Thornton
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« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2024, 10:33:04 PM +0000 » |
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A great race with Dimi. We swapped places numerous times in the early laps. I got too close at the Esses (on about lap 9 I think) with the brakes red so I had to take to the grass to avoid rear ending Dimi. That dropped me back a few hundred yards and I spent the rest of the race trying to catch up. I didn't quite manage it but I'm happy with a solid points finish and a few more tokens in the bank.
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« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2024, 10:37:46 PM +0000 » |
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Very sorry Claudio, I saw now that I put out of road at start I'll fill a report. Great duel with Hristo , only one big error at last but lap on last hairpin and I lost chance to contende the last lap
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« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2024, 12:22:24 AM +0000 » |
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I was really wanting to run the Vanwell here with its better brakes, but decided earlier today to save the koins and run the Gordini. I managed in practice to turn a very low 27.3, so I was extremely happy with m :thumbup1:y pace. In Qually, I managed to repeat my pace, then I had a very nice draft on one lap which could have potentially got into the 36's, but I overshot the last corner. I got a decent start next to Hristo, I was using a shorter 1st gear, so I just managed to get past him on the outside of T1 I was truly expecting a battle for the ages with him, as our pace was similar, but sadly he over shot the hairpin on lap 2. This gave me a comfortable gap, and I could focus on keeping up with Clive in his Vanwell. I was able to gain on him in T1, which kept me just barely in the draft, but eventually he managed to gain some speed and pulled away from me. It was a lonely race from there on out. With about 8 to go I got a horrible cramp in my right leg, and it was really hard to drive hard so I took it easy to the finish. I am very happy to finish in 5th, being the best of the rest for the Gordinis.. LoL Great race up front! Very impressive battle!
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Hristo Itchov
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« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2024, 01:51:26 AM +0000 » |
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Could only finish 6th, but it was more or less the best I could hope for, considering I only tested qualifying runs and it showed. I should stop doing that, as again I spent the first half of the race trying to figure out the braking points and how to drive the car with no brakes. Qualifying itself went better than expected, with a low 37 without slipstream, which surprised me. I changed to the shorter gears Jon suggested, but he still had a better start and managed to overtake me at T1. I could attack at the hairpin while we still had brakes working, but decided not to take any risks. Unfortunately an off at the same corner a lap later dropped me to 7th, 5 seconds behind Fulvio. I managed to keep that gap the same for a while, but then shifted down to neutral instead of 1st going into the chicane, and when I changed up to 1st again, the rear end locked up and I barely caught it going into the grass. Another 2 seconds lost, so I was now over 7 behind Fulvio. From there on I gradually managed to figure things out and initially keep the gap constant, then reduce it bit by bit. The race was reaching its end so there wasn't much time left to close in on Fulvio and overtake him, but once I caught his slipstream, it accelerated things, figuratively and literally. The problem was though that now I had even longer braking zones because of the slipstream and I didn't want to risk hitting him, so I was just bidding my time. With a few laps to go Fulvio messed up T1 a little bit so I went to the inside for the next flat out right hander. I knew it was a bit of a naughty move as you don't normally overtake there, but I just wanted to pressure him. I eased off to make sure I keep the inside line, but he went off into the grass and so I was through. This didn't last long though - a mistake a lap later and he was side by side on the exit of the first hairpin and took back the position. He messed up the chicane though, cutting across the grass and I knew that would send him wide as he rejoined the track, so I slowed down more and attacked on the inside as soon as it happened. It was just enough to overtake him and with a good exit off the final corner while Fulvio lost the rear on acceleration, I only had to do the final lap to bring it home! I enjoyed the chase and the battle, so overall it was a good race, considering. Congrats to Evil for an amazing victory and keeping the very fast Jonny behind through the whole distance! I watched the replay on fast forward at the end of my stream and not only was Evil spectacular in the way he was constantly taking the corners sideways with opposite lock, but he somehow managed to resist the pressure from start to finish!
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Clive Loynes
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« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2024, 08:04:13 AM +0000 » |
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Great race report Hristo and very impressive how you have understood the essence of 55mod racing in just so few outings.
My race was just how I like them, a few pixels to chase and nobody breathing down my neck.
I had done four or five race distance runs before Sunday and was much quicker in them than I was last night! In the end I came to the conclusion that being in "careful" mode didn't heat my rear tyres and give the slightly looser rear end that I needed, especially at T1. Don't think that I got that right until the last lap.
Anyway, a slightly better result than my usual 6th.
Well done to Evil, Jonny and Enrique.
Looking forward to Indianapolis.
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Claudio Navonne
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« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2024, 08:56:27 AM +0000 » |
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Very sorry Claudio, I saw now that I put out of road at start I'll fill a report. Great duel with Hristo , only one big error at last but lap on last hairpin and I lost chance to contende the last lap No problem Fulvio. No protest on my part. Then I had fun recovering, but I demanded too much from the 4 cylinders of my Ferrari and it finally exploded. See you in Indy.
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« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2024, 10:13:44 AM +0000 » |
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A terrific race with Jonny!!! and grats to Enrique for 3rd and all finishers. I noticed a lot of Gordinis on the grid...people all with the same plan? saving tokens lol. I was fortunate to post a PB in the Maserati that just secured pole by 0.2 sec, but I was very concerned about Jonny and his Merc sitting right behind me. I was certain that the extra horsepower of the W196 would just blow past my Maserati on the straight. It was just a matter of when he would do that. So, the first job was to get a good start and at least make him work for it . I almost got that wrong as the flag dropped so quickly I barely had time to get the revs up, but maybe Jonny hit the same prob. Anyway I led into T1 and down to the hairpin. At the end of Lap 1 I pushed really hard on cold tyres to get onto the S/F straight with as big a gap as I could find. 2nd lap and into the hairpin I was still in front but Jonny was just 50mtrs behind. ... and lap 3....and lap4 etc etc. TBH I was in danger of either blowing the engine or running out of brakes on every lap, such was the pressure from Jonny and his Merc. The only advantage that I seemed to have was out of that final corner, where I could get the power down just a little earlier than the Merc and pull an extra 10-15 mtrs that protected me from an attack at the hairpin. Huge respect to Jonny as he never once tried anything risky even though there were a couple of occasions when he had a half chance . The pace was frighteningly quick and I was glad that I had tweaked the setup and diff to protect the rear tyres from overheating, because they were getting some serious abuse. At about half distance I glanced at the fuel...then I looked again and again. My prerace calculations indicated that I should finish with about 5 litres left in the tank, I had calculated on about 3 litres per lap but with 15 laps to go I only had 40litres left We had been racing so hard that I was using 3.5 litres per lap!! It took me a few laps to change upshift points and some lift and coast to start saving fuel and still keep that Merc behind. The engine in the Maserati hs great torque so I started using 2nd out of corners instead of 1st and slowly the ratio of fuel to laps got better. The lift and coast gave me a few scary moments when I had to throw the car sideways to avoid running off the road. Jonny did not know about my fuel problems or how close he came to the win. Exiting the last corner on the final lap the engine started to mis fire on the run to the flag and I was certain that his Merc would just cruise past. He did close the gap but I had just enough juice and just enough of a lead to crawl across the line, I might have had 6 cylinders, but only 4 were working lol........PHEW!!!!! Thanks to Jonny for a tremendous race
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Evil Waza, now a completely reformed character! **NOW AVAILABLE ON TWITCH @ evilclive67 Rank Only when I sweat
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Hristo Itchov
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« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2024, 01:01:29 PM +0000 » |
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That's even more impressive, Evil! Not only resisting Jonny's unwavering pursuit through the whole race, but having to deal with fuel saving too! Great race report Hristo and very impressive how you have understood the essence of 55mod racing in just so few outings.
Thanks, Clive, but I still feel I have a lot to learn. I'm not comfortable enough to throw the cars around to aid with the braking like Evil is doing and I'm not exactly sure how to use the brakes yet when they're not in the red. On some laps it works out better than on others, so consistency is still lacking.
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« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2024, 01:35:38 PM +0000 » |
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Thanks for the kind words above H, and for some of your comments on the live stream. Despite you saying that you are not comfortable with these cars, you still lead the championship!!! lol
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« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2024, 03:22:34 PM +0000 » |
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« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2024, 04:07:57 PM +0000 » |
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Congratulations Evil!!!! He was the winner and deserved it! Frankly, I've never had the chance to overtake, I never dive without first being side by side at the braking point, diving when you're behind means catching the blind spot of the person in front and colliding at the entrance to the curve. And within this rule of mine, I never was side by side with Evil. Evil won even with an inferior car and that was very impressive! Congratulations . My idea was to try the attack on the last lap, but I made a mistake there and this hypothesis can never be tested!!! GRRRR.... But I think I lost any chance when I noticed the great difficulty I had in my car in accelerating around the penultimate curve of the race, there I always lost an infinite 50 meters on the way back to the stainless Evil. But happy still to have such a fun race!!! Happy to see my friend Farina on the podium! Impressed by Gordini's rhythm!!!! Sad about Doni's absence
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« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2024, 09:17:14 AM +0000 » |
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First I wanna congratulate evilClive and Jonny for their great battle and for 1-2. Grats to Enrique as well on a great podium. I wanna thanks Hristo and Jon for the great setup that actually gave me a chance not to start and finish last. I still have plenty of trouble with this mod. My whole race was a great battle and chase with Phil. He was so good on braking, however, I was able to win back time in the corners. At one point he was able to overtake me permanently and to make a gap of about 3 seconds, however, a mistake on his end gave me the position back. After that I was able to keep the gap at around 6 seconds and finish in P8, giving the needed points so our team can stay in P1. But this was not possible if Hristo was not determined as always to take the best possible recovery after early problems with the brakes and overtake our friend Fulvio for P6 right at the end. It was a great experience. Thank you for all coming to race. Full stream replay (now with the new PC and monitor ): https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2080428354
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Phil Thornton
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« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2024, 11:38:37 AM +0000 » |
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My whole race was a great battle and chase with Phil. He was so good on braking, however, I was able to win back time in the corners. At one point he was able to overtake me permanently and to make a gap of about 3 seconds, however, a mistake on his end gave me the position back.
I watched your stream, very entertaining and informative. I now know where I was going wrong . It is the usual case of "slow in fast out" is better then "fast in slow out". I couldn't match you on the straights because you had better traction out of the corners, my only chance to attack was on the brakes which made me even slower on corner exit. I think your advantage was down to either superior throttle control or a better setup. I'll have to work on both. The next round is at Indianapolis. The brakes are of no consequence there! I won't be able to rely on out-braking you, I'll need a different strategy
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