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  • S16 Rouen: September 14, 2008
September 14, 2008, 07:53:16 PM +0100 - Rouen (1955-70) - UKGPL Season 16 (2008)
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Mikko Rissanen
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 2 +0.473
126.916mph
1 49:04.205
124.300mph
25 1:56.057
126.133mph
Firestone  
Lorenzo Galluzzi
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 3 +0.836
126.517mph
2 +0.842
124.264mph
25 1:55.334
126.923mph
Firestone  
Ilkka Kotisalo
 
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 4 +1.241
126.076mph
3 +3.978
124.132mph
25 1:56.354
125.811mph
Goodyear  
Niko Stenberg
 
BRM P115 F1 1967 5 +1.631
125.654mph
4 +55.190
122.013mph
25 1:58.381
123.656mph
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 17 +10.378
116.878mph
5 +1:23.640
120.866mph
25 1:59.004
123.009mph
Firestone  
Jussi Koukku
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 8 +2.951
124.246mph
6 +1L
119.729mph
24 1:59.054
122.957mph
Goodyear  
john roberts
 
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 7 +2.707
124.504mph
7 +36.063
118.275mph
24 1:58.094
123.957mph
Goodyear  
Mike Wrightson
 rF Gentlemens Racing Club
Honda RA300 F1 1967 14 +6.966
120.152mph
8 +1:28.584
116.220mph
24 2:01.914
120.073mph
Firestone  
Phil Thornton
 Crash 'N' Burn Racing
BRM P115 F1 1967 13 +6.886
120.231mph
9 +1:39.845
115.789mph
24 2:02.640
119.362mph
Goodyear  
Eetu Karjunen
 
Honda RA300 F1 1967 16 +9.625
117.585mph
10 +2L
113.131mph
23 2:04.378
117.694mph
Firestone  
Tuomo Kittila
 
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 10 +3.511
123.658mph
11 +0.645
113.107mph
23 2:04.946
117.159mph
Firestone  
Pertti Uppala
 
BRM P115 F1 1967 12 +6.577
120.537mph
12 +10L
112.797mph
15 2:04.630
117.456mph
accident
Goodyear  
Hristo Itchov
 
BRM P115 F1 1967 6 +1.835
125.434mph
13 +14L
109.959mph
11 1:57.076
125.035mph
Piston
Goodyear  
Jussi Seppala
 
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 1 1:54.868
127.438mph
14 +25L
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accident
Firestone  
Art
 Crash 'N' Burn Racing
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 9 +3.411
123.763mph
15
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0 ---
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Disco
Firestone  
Petteri Pajunen
 
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 11 +4.382
122.755mph
16
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0 ---
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Disco
Firestone  
Burtoner
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 15 +7.164
119.957mph
17
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0 ---
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Disco
Firestone  
Jack O'Ferrall
 Reed Racing
BRM P115 F1 1967 18 DNS ---
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Goodyear  
Jack O'Ferrall
 Reed Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 19 ---
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Goodyear  
1 UKGPL
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 18 20 ---
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Goodyear  
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« Reply #30 on: September 14, 2008, 12:51:20 AM +0100 »

so ... that being the case ... what about helmets  ?

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« Reply #31 on: September 14, 2008, 02:01:06 AM +0100 »

so ... that being the case ... what about helmets  ?
Well drivers should either use the original carset or one of the later GPLEA carsets that is configurable for 2d helmets.

All UKGPL drivers should use a RED helmet.


For anybody who doesn't know how to configure the GPLEA addon carset:

Lets say you want the BRM

Download the latest GPLEA BRM car  from here

Lets say you chose the file "GPLEA BRM P83 v3.0.exe"

Run the auto unzip file and you should get a directory called GPLEA BRM P83 v3.0 with a lot of subdirectories.

Go to the car directory in C:\Sierra\gpl\cars\cars67

Rename the brm directory to brm_original or some other name you are happy with (so you can restore the file if it all goes wrong).

Create a new directory called brm and copy into it the brm.dat file from brm_original

Now copy into the brm directory the contents of "GPLEA BRM P83 v3.0\P83 Standard" first and then "GPLEA BRM P83 v3.0\2D Helmet"  You should be prompted with "Do you want to overwrite brm.3do?"  At which point you click yes.

You will then have a nice shiny BRM with the helmet colour selectable using IGOR.




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« Reply #32 on: September 14, 2008, 10:17:50 AM +0100 »

Race server details updated to VROC UKGPL 1
Also revised driver allocation


Lotus     Art le Marquand
Eagle      John Roberts
Ferrari     Lorenzo Galluzzi
Braham    Kruger Enge
Honda     Mike Wrightson
Cooper   Clive Gardner
Cooper    Brendan Wright......  Brendan has just PM'd to say he cannot make it, so it looks like a reserve will be needed!!
BRM        Hristo Itchov                         
BRM       Phil Thornton
 
Reserves
Rob Burton
Bernie
Jack O'Ferrall
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« Reply #33 on: September 14, 2008, 11:24:05 AM +0100 »

I thought it said in earlier thread i was in it?
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« Reply #34 on: September 14, 2008, 11:32:59 AM +0100 »

I thought it said in earlier thread i was in it?
Well it looks like either Burt or Jack are the candidate for the empty Cooper seat.  Are you available Burt, you're very quick in the Coop at Rouen (you beat me in a fez last season).
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« Reply #35 on: September 14, 2008, 12:00:08 PM +0100 »

Ok im up for it, just bit disappointed thats 2 races in 1 evening!
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« Reply #36 on: September 14, 2008, 02:40:03 PM +0100 »

Sorry to mess you about Rob, but we did have a couple of late changes..

It looks like there is a nice cosy Cooper seat available for this race if you want it?  If we start the race at 7:30, then 25 laps should last about 50 minutes which should give you just enough time for a shower and a clean pair of underpants for the Clubmans race?

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« Reply #37 on: September 14, 2008, 03:12:03 PM +0100 »

Well done Burt, you've got more experience than me at this level.  I'll be there if there's any late problems.  All the other leagues that we'll be racing this season will no doubt be examining this opening fixture very closely, so no pressure then!

Just to clarify the points system, the winner scores 18pts, second 17pts etc.  However you must finish to score and also have run 90% of the distance, that is at least 23 laps.
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« Reply #38 on: September 14, 2008, 07:55:55 PM +0100 »

Well what a shambles!!!  Sad

I think driving etiquette went out of the window on lap 1.

Qually went ok and got into the 58's. Not a PB but had some probs with my steering wheel so joined late.

As for the start well, got off to a clean start and made it cautiously through T1. Coming into T2 I had to brake pretty rapid as the guy in front broke well early and I put my rear on the grass and spun.  Sad No damage done though so rejoined and coming down the straight before the hairpin J. Uppula spun and was facing the coming traffic and instead of waiting for the track to clear he drove against the flow of traffic and straight into my path.  Angry

Lost a wheel and that was my race over on Lap 1.

Not a happy bunny but onto the next one.
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« Reply #39 on: September 14, 2008, 09:15:33 PM +0100 »

in the race i had a tangle with J.Koukku on lap 5 (racetime 9.58) after which the car was a bit iffy ....

then i got pc problems and lost the sound , spun off and then did about 3 laps before the sound came back .

not a good race .

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« Reply #40 on: September 14, 2008, 09:19:04 PM +0100 »

Thanks to Team UKGPL for at being there and at least starting the race.
Grats To Lorenzo for pushing right to the flag and only just missing out on 1st spot.

I think it was a shame that the "Lap 1 incident" occured as it took out so many cars and some of the fun element was lost.
From what I could see the two teams would have been quite evenly matched and it might have been a much closer result if more cars had survived.
We will have revenge in a rematch:O)



Bad luck Art and John, I wondered what the prob was John as I suddenly caught and passed you. Shocked/
Phil is going to upload a replay onto the website so we can all see what happened.

I started at the back of the grid as had not posted a qually lap and came upon wall to wall metalwork, so I had to go up the bank to avoid the carnage. In doing so, I went from 17th-8th!!!!  

Did anyone else have any issues with the server? I know Jack could not join ( bandwidth mismatch) so we started one car short. The Trellet guys said that they could not alweays see all of the cars...did anyone else have that problem?
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« Reply #41 on: September 14, 2008, 09:22:39 PM +0100 »

We're not planning to moderate these interleague races, we're relying on the fact that most of the drivers are experienced and should know what they are doing.  I think the incident Art was involved in was down to a lack of bandwidth.  The guy rejoining expected to be able to see the following cars.  The bandwidth settings on 1.ukgpl are conservative by modern standards.  I'll do some experiments and see if we can up it a little.
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« Reply #42 on: September 14, 2008, 09:27:47 PM +0100 »

in the race i had a tangle with J.Koukku on lap 5 (racetime 9.58) after which the car was a bit iffy ....
I wondered what was going on John.  I caught you up about half way through the race and your car was smoking really badly.  You let me though at the hairpin but then you stayed on my tail.  I thought you were doing really well keeping up with half an engine but when you came back past a lap later on the long straight there was no smoke.  You were going so fast you out braked yourself Shocked.  Anyway when you caught me up again I let you through.
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« Reply #43 on: September 15, 2008, 12:46:31 AM +0100 »

Many thanks to Trellet, its great that the other leagues are willing to race us on Sunday night, they all have their own schedules.  I enjoyed chatting to their drivers, they seem a good bunch.

Though I haven't seen the replay it seems that we were very evenly matched.  The provisional points tally I had was 64-79, which would mean that Hristo's engine was the difference, or the two Trellet drivers who made it despite being lapped twice.  Unfortunately my bandwidth issue was my fault, I just hadn't enough time to sort it out, and only having eight drivers cost us.  I'll just have to do better next time, perhaps we should have two reserves, but I'll try to cover all the cars if I'm reserve again.

While we will look at the replay we haven't any fixed agreement on penalties, just that we'd be guided by the World Cup rules.  Unless there's something glaring I wouldn't expect it to affect the result.  Art was unlucky, but at least it's helped us become aware of a potential problem for the other races.  Lap 1 incidents will always be a problem with full grids and pro rules, though.

I've organised two further races, with oAo and GPfun, which just leaves us two last 2009 races to complete our Season 16 schedule.  Hopefully by that time we will have become a well-drilled unstoppable racing machine... 
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« Reply #44 on: September 15, 2008, 08:37:48 AM +0100 »

What can I say, it looked very promising after a few laps as I was gaining slightly on 2nd place and car felt good so I could push to the limit but at the same time I was running a longer 5th to save engine and I wasn't revving too high whenever possible. Yet one of those random engine failures occured, lost power, began to smoke, kept going for a few laps until I was in last place then I parked it in the pits. Looking at the results I'd have finished just 1 place higher if I kept cruising, so not much of a difference plus it was rather risky going so slow with all the smoke behind me making it impossible for drivers to judge the distance to my car. Looking forward to the next one and I hope some drivers behave better in the early laps. Grats to Lorenzo for pushing all the way, good effort.
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