UKGPL Season 16 (2008) Clubmans \'67 - Kyalami - Dec 7

[Geoff65]

Well, where do I start. First off, congratulations Steve on an excellent chase and a deserved win... I set the car up for consistency rather than outright speed, thinking that Rik was probably gonna run away with it anyway..Cooper or not. Hoping to pick up the crumbs of others misfortunes. Kyalami has never really been a fave track....still it's not. Can never seem to brake late enough into T1 to turn a decent lap.....Either lock up or the car refuses to turn and just scrubbs up the rise to the kerb and...good night nurse. Anyway, held P2 in qually for a while with a fair time as I'd struggled in prac to find a setup that would help me get under the 24's. But just couldn't crack into the 22's with a 1:23.05 I think being my qually time.

Got a reasonable start in the race and settled down for a couple of laps til I got some heat in the tyres. The Brab is crap on cold rubber and won't accept being pushed til it's good and ready. Jetro (no spelling mistake) and Asbjeurn whistled past on lap 2, with me not being able to do much at all about it. Sat around 4th or something until I could start pedalling it along a bit quicker, until I came on the aftermath of Asbjeurn and Bernie's stunt exhibition on the pit straight. Narrowly missing Asbejeurn as he sat immobile mid track. Hmm, prib said P2.....jaw hit steering wheel. Lap 5 I think and Jetro had his systems failure and bugged out. I wondered where Rik had got to......he wasn't showing up on Prib at all. So, with an inherited P1 I set about trying to hang on to it. Then ensued a ripping pitboard duel with Steve....trying to manage the gap as my Brab had the legs in a couple of salient points round the track....all I needed to do was keep it clean and tidy. Catching is one thing, passing another. Then 3 yellow flags all at the esses at various times. I had to slow each time as the esses is blind til you're in it.....from experience a nasty place to come apon a car blocking the roadway. The last one was on lap 22, when the yellow came out just as I was turning into the l/hander of the esses, it caught my eye and kept me from getting on the throttle, expecting to find another impediment to progress. All I ended up with was the car going arse over apex in a perfect 180deg spin facing the correct way......but letting Steve thru. I got going again with Asbjeurn on my tail up onto the front straight. I tried to restrict him for space into T1 and only succeeded in outbraking myself and ending up on the grass.....short of the fence luckily, a tactical error to be sure. Burt slipped thru into P3 and so, I managed to drag it home with not much left in the front tyres in P4. Bugger.   
Grats to the podium....you guys did a better job. Thanx to Shark for driving off the track to let me by.
Looks like I better keep trying.

[Turkey Machine]

Well, where do I start. First off, congratulations Steve on an excellent chase and a deserved win... I set the car up for consistency rather than outright speed, thinking that Rik was probably gonna run away with it anyway..Cooper or not. Hoping to pick up the crumbs of others misfortunes. Kyalami has never really been a fave track....still it's not. Can never seem to brake late enough into T1 to turn a decent lap.....Either lock up or the car refuses to turn and just scrubbs up the rise to the kerb and...good night nurse. Anyway, held P2 in qually for a while with a fair time as I'd struggled in prac to find a setup that would help me get under the 24's. But just couldn't crack into the 22's with a 1:23.05 I think being my qually time.

Got a reasonable start in the race and settled down for a couple of laps til I got some heat in the tyres. The Brab is crap on cold rubber and won't accept being pushed til it's good and ready. Jetro (no spelling mistake) and Asbjeurn whistled past on lap 2, with me not being able to do much at all about it. Sat around 4th or something until I could start pedalling it along a bit quicker, until I came on the aftermath of Asbjeurn and Bernie's stunt exhibition on the pit straight. Narrowly missing Asbejeurn as he sat immobile mid track. Hmm, prib said P2.....jaw hit steering wheel. Lap 5 I think and Jetro had his systems failure and bugged out. I wondered where Rik had got to......he wasn't showing up on Prib at all. So, with an inherited P1 I set about trying to hang on to it. Then ensued a ripping pitboard duel with Steve....trying to manage the gap as my Brab had the legs in a couple of salient points round the track....all I needed to do was keep it clean and tidy. Catching is one thing, passing another. Then 3 yellow flags all at the esses at various times. I had to slow each time as the esses is blind til you're in it.....from experience a nasty place to come apon a car blocking the roadway. The last one was on lap 22, when the yellow came out just as I was turning into the l/hander of the esses, it caught my eye and kept me from getting on the throttle, expecting to find another impediment to progress. All I ended up with was the car going arse over apex in a perfect 180deg spin facing the correct way......but letting Steve thru. I got going again with Asbjeurn on my tail up onto the front straight. I tried to restrict him for space into T1 and only succeeded in outbraking myself and ending up on the grass.....short of the fence luckily, a tactical error to be sure. Burt slipped thru into P3 and so, I managed to drag it home with not much left in the front tyres in P4. Bugger.   
Grats to the podium....you guys did a better job. Thanx to Shark for driving off the track to let me by.
Looks like I better keep trying.

That's Jethro by the way. I'd appreciate the edit so other's don't make the same mistake. It sounds like a good race; I'll check out the replay later on.

I get the feeling I'm a bit quick for this league. This is absolutely no offense to anybody else out there but barring any screwups on my driving, I'd probably have won that at a canter as I was at least a second faster than the next guy. I tried to make it onto the server with enough time to get a lap in, and I'm sure it'd have been a quickie cos I'd been knocking em out in pre-race practice, but I wasn't quick enough connecting! Congrats to Steve and the other finishers, and Rik on pole. 1:22 in the Cooper is definitely not to be sniffed at, but there's a second or more to be found there.

[Asbjeurn Tverberg]

One other thing: I forgot to rebuild the pitwall before the race. I tried to stay clear of the pits as much as possible, but I'm not 100% sure that I avoided the pit wall during my passes. I may have touched the end of it, so the moderator should check that out.

[Burtoner]

I did noticed that looking at replay this morning before i was going to post, i knew Asbjeurn didnt have pitwall installed after he overtook me and bernie, so perhaps he might get DQ for it, but also the incident up front, could cost him that 2nd place, that I might claim.

My race was bad from start, im getting so fed up amount of startline incidents which arent my fault, again i was last off the line, my race was great though, I came through the field like Schumacher did in his last race at brazil, down in 11th place. Then some incident ahead at turn 1, which i managed to avoid that got me up in the top 3, but then i had the ferrari of Asbjeurn whoever this guy is, overtake me down at turn 1 in the faster car after holding him off for 2-3 laps, with only 4-5 laps to go. I then somehow gifted 3rd place after the leader had a bad last few laps.

So hoping I claim 2nd after the modding is done. Which is nice to a track i won 2 seasons ago at.

[bernie]

Just watched the replay ,  appologies to Ian S for my poor re join , I tried to spin turn on my own side of the track but lost the RPM's and all didnt go to plan.

Can't say i'm pleased about the incident that led up to it though and I think a few of the "newby's " need to remember they are driving in 67 mod cars and not the free for all banzi 65's mod .

[Turkey Machine]

Just watched the replay ,  appologies to Ian S for my poor re join , I tried to spin turn on my own side of the track but lost the RPM's and all didnt go to plan.

Can't say i'm pleased about the incident that led up to it though and I think a few of the "newby's " need to remember they are driving in 67 mod cars and not the free for all banzi 65's mod .

Agreed, some of the driving especially on lap 1 was a bit below-par, shall we say. Kudos to the front runners though, you were exemplary, having seen the replay.

[Michael Turner]

A race marred by some technical problems - no racelist in IGOR, PRBLUDA graphics scrambled (only seems to happen online), and a temporary Black Screen on L15 for the second week running ( I think it's caused by Windows Firewall not recognising a different server). Fortunately no other cars were near me at the time.

Got off to a poor start, unexpectedly veering to the left under acceleration after changing up to 2nd. I managed to catch it but not before hitting CT. So apologies to CT and anybody else caught up in the ensuing mayhem. I later lost 4 places after spinning off on L4 and waiting for the traffic to pass before rejoining so a 6th place was reasonable in the circumstances.

[Craig Thomas]

NP Michael...it was a tough start for me and had 2 "stop n gos" for shift-Rs( the wreck at the start and a blown engine), I was just running laps. I hope I didn't hold up any of the front runners as they lapped me late in the race.
Once again, I enjoyed it and look forward to the next Clubman's at Brands.

[RIKBRIANT]

Can someone please point me in the direction of the version of brands hatch that we will be using for the next race...?
RIK

[Geoff65]

This is the one Rik

http://dixierunners.speedgeezers.net/brands1967/

[Jack O'Ferrall]

Thanks to Mike for hosting this race, as Phil was racing in the earlier race against GBGPL.  Mike tried to urge the newer drivers to join and qualify, but they seem to have misunderstood the rules. The server is started with 35 mins left to allow regular drivers to join, then with 30 mins left the reserves can join, there's no need to wait any further.

However, if you fail to set a time appropriate to your race pace, other drivers might be unhappy that there are faster drivers behind them on the grid.  This seems to be the explanation for Burt and Bernie's comments, which might seem ungracious, especially from D1 drivers?  New drivers are very welcome to join Clubmans, where, if it's necessary, they will always be allowed the time to adapt their racing style!

[bernie]

Re D1 drivers and ungratious comments :

Sorry but I dont consider my comments to be ungratious, the point I was trying to make is that the 65 mod,  which these guys supposedley cut there teeth in , allows some very close racing compaired to the 67 mod which,  due to its warp contact ingredient,  doesn't allow such close racing without the risk of calamitous results and therefore requires a more carefull approach when it comes to overtaking .

IMO of coarse 
 
BTW . a D1 driver in the loosest sense yes,  but very much bottom of the league , I entered the D1 series more to make the numbers up than anything else 

[Turkey Machine]

Thanks to Mike for hosting this race, as Phil was racing in the earlier race against GBGPL.  Mike tried to urge the newer drivers to join and qualify, but they seem to have misunderstood the rules. The server is started with 35 mins left to allow regular drivers to join, then with 30 mins left the reserves can join, there's no need to wait any further.

However, if you fail to set a time appropriate to your race pace, other drivers might be unhappy that there are faster drivers behind them on the grid.  This seems to be the explanation for Burt and Bernie's comments, which might seem ungracious, especially from D1 drivers?  New drivers are very welcome to join Clubmans, where, if it's necessary, they will always be allowed the time to adapt their racing style!

I misunderstood that one, but thank you for clearing it up.

[Phil Thornton]

Results imported gents (thanks again to Mike for the use of his server ).

Looks like I might have a bit of modding to do on this one.  Please submit your incident reports using the link below the results and PLEASE DON'T FORGET TO ENTER THE REPLAY TIME it makes my life a whole lot easier

[Ian Stanley]

Bernie....wasn't sure who I'd harpooned on the S/F...and still not checked the replay to see if I could have avoided. Don't remember seeing a yellow - hoping thats the case, in which case c'est la vie. If there was a yellow up and I've ignored it....getting the phone book ready to stuff down me trousers, that cane can sting