Season 19 Warm-up - Zandvoort (1967) - Mar 7

[Turkey Machine]

Since this is essentially a "practice race" against Atlas this weekend, and we're to palm off 5 people to them, I'm willing to let chassis choices slide. If anybody else wants a crack at driving these cars, they're welcome to join them in a particular car that's not being driven. Ask them in chat tomorrow evening what's being run by them.

This is good practice, by the way, for the S18 Historic series that's starting this Tuesday, since Zandvoort favours the 2L cars more than the 3L cars, and Watkins Glen is being run to 2L regs.

[Burtoner]

Just this race?, no other races this weekend?

I used to be having one every weekend, div 1, then clubsmans???

[Hristo Itchov]

Just this race?, no other races this weekend?

I used to be having one every weekend, div 1, then clubsmans???

Earth to Burt, Graduates is Div1 and Clubmans combined, raced on a single day (last Sunday).

[Turkey Machine]

I won't be doing all the race as I need to have an early nights sleep. Got to leave at 5.30am for an interview tomorrow morning. I'll stick around for qualy and the first few laps of the race.

[cure]

i'll join if its still possible, don't have clue about which chassis though.

edit: BT19

[EvilClive]

 Apologies to Hristo and whoever else got caught up in my first lap screw-up

After a great quali without a tow, I just needed to do a good 1st lap and then I put a wheel on that sandy stuff, just where it had the most effect!!
It just produced a wild tank slapper that I could not control and looks like Hristo could not avoid :'(

I will have to eradicate that move from my driving before the real race.

[Turkey Machine]

That was fun while it lasted. Did OK in qualifying, despite doing my darndest to hit 27s and only scraping 28.2s out of the little Eagle. Put me 6th on the grid. Guy in front didn't take the grid slot, so I had an empty space with which to slingshot into. Around the outside of Tarzan on lap 1 I was in 5th. Then Hristo and evilclive had a nice big collision which put me in the pound seats. When the 2 cars in front had a moment on lap 2 at Tarzan, one of which decided the inside grass was a good place to brake, I nipped through on the inside and held the lead for a lap until Mike Beattie slipstreamed me into Tarzan on lap 4. I followed him until the same corner when I braked later than him on the outside, got the car slowed down just enough to turn in, but understeer forced my car onto the grass where I spun in a nice 360 and parked it. I'd realised that was the ideal moment to head to bed.

If I practice enough in future, this race should be a doozy. Evilclive had his Brabham BRM nicely set up, as did Hristo his Macca. If Tim sorts out his Honda, I'm sure he's good for a consistent finish.

[cure]

qualified 3rd or 4th with a 1:27.xx, can't remember, then started a lap down since i didn't have that bottle lol! basically i went for a bio break after practice and arrived too late for the race. started a lap down from the pits, drove a bit, unlapped myself to one person and then retired out of boredom. it was no fun driving in the middle of nowhere.

[Samb]

That was fun while it lasted. Qualified near the back but some attrition allowed me to battle with the leaders Mike & Clive once Jethro spun into the scenery. I overtook Clive after he had a wobble out of the last corner and then passed Mike once he made an error at some turn I won't even bother attmepting to spell  . So I was in the lead, but Mike was all over the back of me. I could only withstand so much and got a little greedy into the same turn Mike went off, and spun off myself. After that I made far too many errors trying to catch the leading pair and eventually quit in self-disgust. 

[Hristo Itchov]

Apologies to Hristo and whoever else got caught up in my first lap screw-up

After a great quali without a tow, I just needed to do a good 1st lap and then I put a wheel on that sandy stuff, just where it had the most effect!!
It just produced a wild tank slapper that I could not control and looks like Hristo could not avoid :'(

I will have to eradicate that move from my driving before the real race.

Hey np, Evil, it wasn't the real race, plus I should've put it on pole and therefore avoid you!  That was a great laptime in qualifying though, don't think I could've gone faster.

[Clive Loynes]

LOL

Not many finishers but at least Mike and I could still see each other at the end.

That was a bloody long race and I came to the conclusion that Lotus definitely got the “customer” engine from BRM.  Actually, I think that I was just under geared since my ratios were unchanged from the original Cloyd setup and he isn’t interested in slipstream.

Mike in his P261 was able to breeze past on the straight so my only chance of victory would be for him to make his third mistake at Gerlachbocht, which he didn’t.

I think that I started about fifth but cant confirm it because I was so busy talking to Mike and Tim after the end of the race that I forgot to take a replay until it was too late.

I made a reasonable start but just tried to follow Kruger.  Someone may have been on the grass at Tarzan because when Evil very kindly took care of Hristo I found myself chasing Kruger for the lead.

When I tried to pass, my lack of straight line speed meant that Kruger and I were still side by side into the braking area at Tarzan.  He was on the inside and I suspect that he put a wheel on the grass on the way in because he shot across my bows and off up the banking.  I lost momentum and that put Mike and Jethro through.

As Sam has said, I made a mess of the last few corners at some point and he was able to pass me in his BT19 and chase off after Mike, Jethro having departed for his early night.

When I got my act together I was holding the gap to the front pair and closing very slightly.  Then Sam appeared on the grass at Scheiviak and I just had Mike to chase at about 4 seconds up the road.  Sam was a couple of seconds back but thankfully dropped away after a while.

I closed to about three seconds of Mike and then he had his first off at Gerlachbocht. (T2-T3)  That put me in the lead but when I saw my pit board next time round and saw that it said L21 then I knew that there was no way that I was going to stay there.

Mike motored past and got back to his three second margin.  Then he dropped it again in the same spot and this time we only had about ten laps to go so I thought that I had better make a fight of it.  Some hope!  He was much too quick on the straight and in Tarzan for me to keep him back.

And that’s how we finished.

Must have a play with the gears before next time.

[Kruger Enge]

True Clive, that was a wheel on the grass and my Ferrari turned into an unguided missile - I'm glad I didn't hit you bu as if I were since you did lose momentum, sorry for that, I don't know what was I doing there.

A lap later, I lost it again there, all on my own, and had a terrible rejoin in front of Phil. Sorry Phil, I thought I was going to get away faster.

I simply sucked last night as I struggled to get the grips with 66 mod. Interestingly, I found 67s much easier to adapt to.

Anyway, hope to do better in the real race.

Kruger

[FullMetalGasket]

I was happy enough considering I was in the great white whale...
Found myself sat directly behind Sam on the grid, and promptly spent the first half lap cringing as his car jumped towards and away from me at all to freqent intervals 
Found myself holding a decent pace behind him and was even up to 4th by about lap 5 with the leaders not too far ahead. Eventually span trying to stay with Sam's Brab, which let Phil through.
Rapidly gained on Phil before he span out at Tarzan - Don't know if this was due to my ever growing Wazza in his mirrors or a simple mistake.

Had a fairly quiet race from there on trying not to loose too much ground to the leaders, interspersed with 4 spins, multiple missed gears, sweat, and loads of swearing!
Then with only 4 laps to go and me looking safe to finish on the lead lap the engine died on me - Post race report said the camshaft fell out or something 

Aslong as I can avoid missing gears and spinning then I should be good for a relatively high finish come the real event 

[MikeBeattie]

After all the guys in front lost their "talent", my race was pretty much as described above by Sam & Clive. Sam you have a really evil warp, it was hard to stay close behind you !! 

The race is very long, and to be honest 3/4 the distance would be better, as most of the mechanicals happened in the first half of the race.

Yeah, I sort of lost my Karma on the T2/3 complex about half way through the race, and it wasn't until the last 7 or so laps I remembered how to nail it.

Thanks to Sam and Clive on the good clean racing

Evil....you're my new Hero.............but I'm not saying Why 

[EvilClive]

"Evil....you're my new Hero.............but I'm not saying Why" 

Now let me think, why would that be>>>