Season 19 Warm-up - Zandvoort (1967) - Mar 7

[Turkey Machine]

I've practiced the BT19 here with somewhat disappointing results.  While consistant, I'm not quite to the pace I thought I'd reach.  Oh, I'm as fast as anything else in the upper echelon of cars...just thought I'd be quicker.

Hoping that by Sunday, I'll be able to carry the ball with a little more authority.

Just finish. I don't care where, just finish the damn race.

I never treated people like that as a Captain! What a mistake! 

That's because you could finish races with ease. The temptation with these events is to go balls-out for the best result possible.

Doni, if that came across wrong, I don't *mind* where you finish so long as you do. Pace is not important, though if you know you can go quicker I guess it doesn't hurt to find x seconds a lap if it's dangled like a carrot in front of you. To compare, I'm on 27s with low fuel, and I know 26s are possible.

[Phil Thornton]

Server up for praccy on IGOR if anyone wants to play 

[MikeBeattie]

Hope this doesn't be an Omen, but the MG broke it's front wishbone madday on the Saturday   So I'm back at home and looking forward to seeing you guys do the business tomorrow night !!

Best of luck

[Doni Yourth]

Bad luck there, Mike.     As a former owner of a 1964 Austin Healey Mk III, a clone to a Midget, I can appreciate that you ran into 'difficulities'.   

For the ADC, I provided for their server a revised, 'open' grid layout on a 3x2 staggered arrangement.  Much better than the original posting for on-line starts, imo.  For our run later today, I can heartily recommend adopting it.  Here are the spex:

[ starting_grid_0 ]
  ; 3x2 staggered grid
  ; polesitter on right
  ; track length is <4189.39>
  ; grid front center at <4178.70,  0.00>
  ; width between boxes  3.10
stall_0 = 4177.00 -3.10
stall_1 = 4167.00  0.00
stall_2 = 4157.00  3.10
stall_3 = 4147.00 -1.55
stall_4 = 4137.00  1.55
stall_5 = 4127.00 -3.10
stall_6 = 4117.00  0.00
stall_7 = 4107.00  3.10
stall_8 = 4097.00 -1.55
stall_9 = 4087.00  1.55
stall_10 = 4077.00 -3.10
stall_11 = 4067.00  0.00
stall_12 = 4057.00  3.10
stall_13 = 4047.00 -1.55
stall_14 = 4037.00  1.55
stall_15 = 4027.00 -3.10
stall_16 = 4017.00  0.00
stall_17 = 4007.00  3.10
stall_18 = 3997.00 -1.55
stall_19 = 3987.00  1.55

If time permits, perhaps it could be loaded to the intended server and tested.

Doni

[Clive Loynes]

Eeeek!


I don't think that anything but a 1 x 1 stagger should ever be considered for a PRO race. Preferably one where you can see the next bloke back in your mirrors.  At least you know then that if you make a good start and can still see him then there is nobody alongside.

[EvilClive]

For once I find myself in total agreement with Clive.....must be the new medication I'm taking

[Doni Yourth]

Gys.  It's the same one used by the ADC when they hosted the ADC vs UKGPL event.  Was that not satisfactory?

[Clive Loynes]

Gys.  It's the same one used by the ADC when they hosted the ADC vs UKGPL event.  Was that not satisfactory?

LOL

The one where you rammed me in the stern before I reached Paddock?

Admittedly  I was having problems with the upshift microswitch and was trying to keep clear of the cars in front but a bit more room may have been useful.

You did right not to race last night though.  Another lamentable display by TeamUKGPL of their inability to reach the finish.

Schoolboy errors by Paul and Jethro on the way to T1 started to thin things from the start.

By lap 11 there were only three of us left and it would probably have stayed that way if Evil hadn't decided to drop back and thin us out a bit more. 

[FullMetalGasket]

Lol, my Waza mobile seemed intent on playing in the sand.
Eventually lost some wheels and gave in despite having climbed to 3rd again  /

See - I said I wouldn't make 3rd a second time 

[Hristo Itchov]

Another lamentable display by TeamUKGPL of their inability to reach the finish.

Sometimes I have a feeling our team consists of hot blooded latin americans. 

[Clive Loynes]

Another lamentable display by TeamUKGPL of their inability to reach the finish.

Sometimes I have a feeling our team consists of hot blooded latin americans. 

And wazas!   

[EvilClive]

Apologies for the nudge Clive    Maybe I should have stayed out of harms way some 25 secs in front. But, with half the race still to go and only 3 cars running I felt it had ceased to be an "event" so I waited for you and Mike just to have some fun. 

Although this race started as a "fun run/training" because of the slip up on Atlas's side, I think the T1 melee should be a lesson to some.

I was actually very worried sat on pole in a 2 ltr rollerskate that the 3 litre barges with their extra grunt off the grid, would steamroller me into T1 and I would get clattered.
As it transpired they obviously fell over themselves and left me a gap by the end of Lap 1 that meant I was untroubled for the reamainder of the race and able to pull steadily away and control proceedings very comfortably.

I hope that when we do the "real thing" that survival, not death or glory, will be the tactics at T1 because the team needs as many finishers as possible. Finishing in 8th or 9th is infinitely better than going out at T1 lap 1 !!!!

[FullMetalGasket]

I had a grandstand seat for the gymnastics as it all happened in front of me - I still don't understand the first accident as it happened about half way between the start and T1?
2nd incident looked more like a braking error in about T2..
It put me in 3rd with a turbocharged rollerskate up me bum that just wouldn't do the decent thing and fall off/go away 

Managed to put a rear in the super sticky sand trying to hold them (Krugar I think) off...

[Turkey Machine]

I can lay the blame squarely at myself for T1 as I had failed to spot Kruger putting his car right up the inside of the corner. Looked right, no sign of him, so turned in. He barrel-rolled over me and I just hoped nobody hit me. Same couldn't be said for the second time I did that, as I gave it some welly and had a half spin, at which point I was rolling backwards and attempting a spin-around to get me pointing the right way. Unfortunately the collision was half-inevitable and it sent me skywards into the infield.

[Clive Loynes]

On my replay, the first two incidents were elementary errors by Paul and Jethro.  

Paul moved over on Mike half way to Tarzan and Jethro did the same to Kruger at the entry to the corner.  That finished Kruger's race which was not so fitting an end for two week's of practice, fun race or not!

I don't know how many times you have to tell people not to do that but obviously we haven't reached the break even point yet!

Mike's BRM was a solidly built machine as in addition to be in attacked by Paul he was also presented with the need to drive straight through Jethro later in the race when the latter parked across the track just after Tarzan.