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September 29, 2009, 09:40:32 PM +0100 - Solitude - UKGPL Season 18 (2009-2010) Historic Trophy (66)
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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Hristo Itchov
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA273 F1 1966 1 3:33.680
119.480mph
1 39:21.937
118.900mph
11 3:33.021
119.849mph
Goodyear  
Ken Murray
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Brabham BT19 (Repco) F1 1966 2 +1.123
118.855mph
2 +10.207
118.389mph
11 3:33.760
119.435mph
Goodyear  
gerard kayou
 
McLaren M2B (Ford) F1 1966 4 +4.020
117.273mph
3 +1:21.127
114.952mph
11 3:39.370
116.381mph
Firestone  
Al Heller
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT19 (Repco) F1 1966 10 +7.298
115.534mph
4 +1:42.064
113.975mph
11 3:41.144
115.447mph
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 HikiWazaRacing
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1966) F1 1966 7 +6.176
116.123mph
5 +1:57.552
113.263mph
11 3:40.212
115.936mph
Goodyear  
Turkey Machine
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT19 (Repco) F1 1966 3 +3.959
117.306mph
6 +1L
114.123mph
10 3:38.744
116.714mph
Goodyear  
Dave Randall
 
Brabham BT19 (Repco) F1 1966 6 +4.913
116.794mph
7 +2L
114.741mph
9 3:39.063
116.544mph
Disco
Goodyear  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1966) F1 1966 9 +6.262
116.078mph
8 +18.076
113.715mph
9 3:41.317
115.357mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Syd Drake
 Drake Racing
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 14 9 +8L
106.549mph
3 3:57.347
107.566mph
Disco
Firestone  
Clutch4
 Mountside Racing
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 15 10 +9.005
105.231mph
3 3:47.296
112.322mph
Disco
Firestone  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
Cooper T81 (Maserati) F1 1966 11 +9.738
114.272mph
11 +10L
89.109mph
1 4:41.738
90.618mph
Disco
Firestone  
FullMetalGasket
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA273 F1 1966 5 +4.528
117.000mph
12 +11L
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Disco
Goodyear  
MikeBeattie
 Drake Racing
McLaren M2B (Ford) F1 1966 8 +6.256
116.081mph
13
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0 ---
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Disco
Firestone  
BookieW
 HikiWazaRacing
Brabham BT19 (Repco) F1 1966 12 +25.534
106.726mph
14
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0 ---
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Disco
Goodyear  
Dave Randall
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.7) F1 1966 15 DNS ---
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Goodyear  
6 UKGPL
 
Ferrari 312 (1966) F1 1966 13 16 ---
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Firestone  

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F1 1966
3:33.680
119.480mph
Hristo Itchov
Qualifying
Honda RA273September 29, 2009, 09:40:32 PM +0100
S18H
Grand Prix Legends
F1 1966
3:33.021
119.849mph
Hristo Itchov
Race
Honda RA273September 29, 2009, 09:40:32 PM +0100
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« on: September 25, 2009, 11:24:04 PM +0100 »

UKGPL Season 18 - Historic Division - Race 2 - 66 mod - Solitude

Race date = 29-09-2009
Server = 6.UKGPL
IP Address = 80.5.200.198
Time = 21:00
Track = Solitude
Variant = 66F1,  3L engines
Damage Model = PRO
Qually time = 30 minutes.
Race length = long

Group I
Mclaren M2B Ford       
T1G Eagle Weslake             

Group II
BRM P83             
Lotus 43 BRM       

Group III
Honda RA273         
Cooper T81           
Brabham BT19           
Ferrari 312         

Drivers Restricted to cars from Group I
Gerard Kayou
Fulvio Policardi

Drivers Restricted to cars from Groups I or II
Evil Clive
Mike Beattie

All other drivers have free chassis choice.

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« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2009, 11:34:47 AM +0100 »

I think you're missing a few details here Syd  Wink
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« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2009, 06:34:06 PM +0100 »

I don't. What's he forgotten?
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« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2009, 06:54:57 AM +0100 »

Phil added drivers that were restricted to group I and group II.
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« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2009, 09:42:44 AM +0100 »

Ohh!
I can haz Waza Mobile!  Grin
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« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2009, 09:44:16 PM +0100 »

Should have gone well as I'm good at Solitude.
My clutch pedal seemed to have other ideas though - It decided not to register properly meaning I kept missing gears.
That resulted in numerous spins due to lack of cantrol before finally being taken out braking hard to try and avoid 2 cars in front who were much slower through a section than I was used to  Sad

Bummer.
At least I can go play in my Dino on the Targo now though  angel
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« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2009, 10:02:43 PM +0100 »

Knew i was in trouble as soon as i took to the track for qualifying.
Had what i thought was an OK, safe set up to get me round, but hadn't had chance to really practice with it and i soon discovered that braking without spinning was practically impossible.
I considered leaving the race so as not to endanger other peoples races, but thought i'd have a quick look off line at my set up. By the time i'd pin pointed the problem and made a quick, but far from perfect adjustment, there was not enough time to attempt a qualifying lap. Still, i'd have been at the back anyway.  Smiley

Managed about 4 laps, but saw a yellow flag on the twisty section back to the finish and ran wide as it distracted me. Car ended up on the roof, so race over.

I've never really touched the 66 Mod, hence wanting to give this division a go. I'm learning little bits at a time set up wise which are making them at least bearable to drive, but it'll take me years to get the hang of them - which is the beauty of GPL in my opinion.

Enjoyed it whilst it lasted, however, time to practice would have stood me in better shape.  Wink
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« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2009, 10:29:01 PM +0100 »

I'd managed one complete timed lap in pre-race practice which was scrappy at best. Once I'd met several points of the scenery in qualifying, I drained the fuel and went for several laps. Managed not to hit anything and one lap put me 3rd on the grid, which seemed to surprise most. It meant I was on for a very good start if I didn't hit anybody, which seemed to worry some.

At the start, Hristo seemed to be a little slow, and Ken was comparitively slow. H took the inside line to T1 which meant I had to do my utmost to resist mating my nose to his Honda's gearbox. After the first lap they pulled away and I had a good battle with Dave for a few laps til the Brabham spat on me several times with 2 offs. Oversteer's the only way to get the Brabham to turn effectively and it hit when I least needed it to. Managed to run wide at the last corner and go on the outside of the hay barrier. Crossed the line, but couldn't find a way back onto the track, so retired as there was only 1 lap and evilclive woulda been lucky to finish but for his epic escape from the last corner inside ramp effort!
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« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2009, 10:31:47 PM +0100 »

Sometimes I can't fathom my own stupidity!  Running a comfortable 4th with Ken & Hristo miles ahead, a recovering Gerard back in the groove and disappearing in the distance at 600 yards + and holding Evil a few hundred yards behind; so with just a few laps remaining the only sensible option was to keep to a well controlled pace and bring home 4th place worth of points.  But no, couldn't resist pushing harder and consequently lost it under braking to shed a front wheel!  Gutted and kicking own shins!!  Angry

Race started well, made up a couple of places on first few corners to put myself behind Jethro who looked a bit hairy at times and eventually lost it, putting me up to 3rd with Evil and Gerard behind.  Managed to lose it (safely) on the return section and give up two places to rejoin behind Evil.  Recovered to pass Clive who didn't seem that confident on the 1st part of the lap and then blew it as above.

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« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2009, 11:16:53 PM +0100 »

Off the start I didn't think I got away terribly well and stayed wide through T1 and T2 and I was surprised I came out the other side ahead of Hristo. My time at the front was relatively short lived though and inevitably H was soon back through on the run down to the hairpin. He pulled a bit of a gap over the next lap and a half but then I was amazed to find myself reeling him back in (partly slipstream aided I have to admit). Anyway I enjoyed following him for the next 4 or 5 laps but then at the penultimate corner I got some understeer and instead of trying ssome throttle or brake to correct it I just froze and ran up the grass bank and down again. That lost me about 5 or 6 secs and try as I might I couldn't reduce it over the remaining laps, although again I was pleased it didn't increase much either. Grats to Hristo and all who finished on this demanding course.
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« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2009, 11:38:22 PM +0100 »

My start was not good, frame rate was well down (I had the eye candy set too high, usually have detail bias half way but for some reason it was on full) and cars were dissapearing from view on start line.  Car was hard to control and  consequently I spun at T2.  Syd couldn't avoid me and I was punted over the armco down the steep banking and into the trees.  Amazingly the car kept all 4 wheels and I trundled round trying to find a way back onto the track.  Car seemed to be handling reasonably well but I put a wheel on the grass on lap 2 and lost a wheel to a tree trunk, race over Sad.

Sorry about the shunt Syd, hope it didn't damage your car.
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« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2009, 07:28:28 AM +0100 »

Having done a complete re-install of GPL in the hope of curing my disco problems, I then found my FF setting had changed and I couldn't get them sorted in time (does anyone know where you can "reverse" the FF setting on a G23 in GPL, I can't remember). Isettled for the McLaren, as it was easier to drive round the twisty bits. However, I upped the nr of  plates in the diff to 3. This helped settle it down , but gave me power oversteer. This caught me out on the last corner of L1, where the back nd powered up and I started heading for the wide tarmac on the inside. Ofcourse this isn't tarmac , its a ditch, and I ended up clipping a tree and after numerous tumbles ended up on my roof beside the control tower. Sad
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« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2009, 08:35:44 AM +0100 »

Interesting that Ken opted for the Mclaren ( as did Gerard) because of its easier handling. I had the choice of the Macca Eagle or the Lotus and BRM in group 2 but opted for the Eagle as the "safest" handling car.
Undoubtedly the Lotus and BRM had more power and felt faster down the long straight, but the pendulums stuck on the back of both of those cars made the return run a lottery for me. Whereas, when I tried the Eagle , which I had discounted and left until last, all I did was adjust diff and brake balance initially and it felt sweet straight away. One or two gear ratio tweaks and it felt great. Shocked

A cautious start to avoid possible mayhem at T1 and waited for the tyres to come up to temp, as I fully expected this to be a race of survival for me , rather than any giant killing runs for the podium. I was quite heartened to find that I could still see 3rd and 4th cars after a lap and that maybe my race pace was not so bad. Meanwhile Gerard had got his Mclaren wound up and was hustling me for a passing opportunity. Fortunately the Eagle, either by setup or design, seemed to have a fraction more grunt out of the corners and a slightly higher top end so I was able to defend my position although every timer I strayed off the optimum line Gerard was sniffing for the pass Roll Eyes.
I tried to be fair ( not like me I know but,.. Roll Eyes) and leave a space when it looked like he might be getting alongside and we carried on our battle for several laps.
I think the euphoria at passing Jethro in the haybales and then Dave recovering from an off went to my head because it seemed that I selected a favourite tree, from the many on offer on the return run, and tried to impale myself upon it when I had just pulled a small gap back to Gerard!!!
I thought that I must at least have lost a wheel, but all 4 were still there, although it transpired that 1 was maybe not attached in the manner that it was meant to be!! and for the last 6 laps I had a car that displayed a distinct leaning to the left and an aversion to going anywhere remotely to the right...which was interesting Undecided
It was pointless trying to defend my position, as I could not carry any speed through any right turns, so I was hoping for a few retirements ahead ( thanks Dave Grin ) but was kicking myself for concentrating so hard on controlling the beast and not realising that it was the last lap, when I was trying to stay ahead of Al approaching the s/f line and blew it!! to lose the place with 100 mtrs to go and finish last!!!  lol.  Undecided
Grats to Hristo and the Waza  glad you avoided the haybales this time  Grin and to the podium.
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« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2009, 09:09:14 AM +0100 »

My clutch pedal seemed to have other ideas though - It decided not to register properly meaning I kept missing gears.

A few hours at Targa made it quite clear that the problem is with 2nd gear on my wheel rather than the clutch  Roll Eyes
It seems to have gotten 'sloppy' meaning it doesn't always register being in gear until after the clutch is back out - GPLShift then says 'oh no you don't!' and I find myself in neutral  Sad
Will make adjustments tonight, but very annoyed I'll have to remove some realism by dropping the clutch threshold to about 10% to compensate...

Still gutted about Soli - from above it appears I would have been near garenteed 2nd again if not 3rd  :'(
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« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2009, 11:40:46 AM +0100 »

This was a hard race, harder than I expected anyway, as Ken had a great pace and was able to keep up with me throughout the whole chase before his off in the penultimate corner. He was especially quicker in the hairpins and gaining a few tenths, but fortunately for me the Honda had enough grunt on the straights and that kept me safe.

We were both pushing very hard early on and even the tiniest of mistake would've given advantage to the other, but at the same time that was quite enjoyable. I was happy with the Honda handling, but it would still struggle to make tighter turns and it was also quite loose on the exits of some corners, but the chassis has that nice property of being easy to catch a slide.

After Ken went off I could relax a bit, but that led to a few mistakes, some of which were nearly terminal as I narrowly escaped hitting some of the trees on the side of the track. In the end I tried to go for a 32 but the tires were somewhat overheated and the handling had deteriorated.

Grats to all finishers and ALL MY VICTORIES ARE BELONG TO HER!!!  Grin

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