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« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2014, 10:15:30 PM +0000 » |
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@Robert: use a separate profile for 60fps vs 36fps. There are known issues if you join a server with a mismatch.
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« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2014, 10:58:00 PM +0000 » |
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@Robert: use a separate profile for 60fps vs 36fps. There are known issues if you join a server with a mismatch.
Do you mean I have to make another player profile? I have all mods under one player, and I thought the client will use the server settings!? I prefer to keep one player profile and one GPL install, otherwise it's going to be such a mess... Also it's random, sometimes during races I have periods of stuttering and then it's going away, I hoped it would be like that yesterday...sometimes no probs at all... Seems like lately I have lot of malware, trojans, VBS script virii and exploits on my system...and yes I'm still on XP with no money for a new computer, right now...will look for another antivirusprogram, and reinstall my OS... Sorry for being off-topic...
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« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2014, 11:01:45 PM +0000 » |
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Make sure you set the detail slider to a lower setting. In the lowest setting, cars appear uglier than ugly but are extremely light on fps in that case. Probably the intermittent fps drops are due to a car appearing/disappearing, either in front of you or in your mirrors.
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« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2014, 11:27:17 PM +0000 » |
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Make sure you set the detail slider to a lower setting. In the lowest setting, cars appear uglier than ugly but are extremely light on fps in that case. Probably the intermittent fps drops are due to a car appearing/disappearing, either in front of you or in your mirrors.
Thanks Tommie, but that isn't the problem. I use to run mostly at about 60-65%, and as I said I run 60FPS at Ghog. It seems to be random, and related to my system, this stuttering. Like my system is being exploited, always use end-it-all to stop scheduled update programs and such before racing...At Borovaya it was my videocard, and since then I have fixed that problem...still the stuttering returns now and then, as I said, like it's random...nothing to do with graphic detail or tracks that ask more of your system AFAIK...like last Saturday at Monza I had stuttering on Lap 1, and at Stardust 36FPS all the way, same settings... Thanks for thinking with me, I'll open a new thread under GPL, or ask on SRMZ, and will look on the internet for solutions...first need to reinstall OS...happily I have GPL on an other partition PS: just thinking, I have a solid virtual memory file on the same partition as GPL, maybe that's the prob!? Cheers
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« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2014, 11:42:43 PM +0000 » |
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Robert it is essential to know where the bottleneck of a system is. I use the Open Hardware Monitor to see what happens during a GPL session by monitoring the clocks and the load of CPU and GPU. Before a race I have settings profiles of the Graphics Software. For 36fps Vsync off and for 60fps Vsync on. My main problem was that the ATI software does not recognize GPL as a 3D program and the GPU idled...
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« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2014, 12:06:46 AM +0000 » |
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Axel, thanks. Will try that as well. Appreciate it.
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« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2014, 10:24:11 AM +0000 » |
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I agree with Cookie, it looks as when the system doesn't need to run 100 %, it switches to power saving mode or something. Certainly, Stardust is much harder on fps so it's odd to get 36 fps there but not at Monza, which is lighter.
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« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2014, 02:09:39 PM +0000 » |
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@Robert: use a separate profile for 60fps vs 36fps. There are known issues if you join a server with a mismatch.
Do you mean I have to make another player profile? I have all mods under one player, and I thought the client will use the server settings!? I prefer to keep one player profile and one GPL install, otherwise it's going to be such a mess... You do NOT pick up the server settings since the 60 fps patch is local. You would have to re-patch in GEM. If you are joining a 36fps race with 60 fps you will have more stutter than King George VI... You could have two separate GPL installations - it is a bit of a pain because you have to install the tracks twice etc etc but having two player profiles would help. Otherwise you will have to re-patch GPL each time you swap between 36 and 60fps. As for the OS you could use a Linux distro (which is free) and run GPL under the Windows emulator WINE. I know several people have done it although I have not myself. I put Ubuntu on an old laptop and it gave it new life!
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« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2014, 03:02:09 PM +0000 » |
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@Robert: use a separate profile for 60fps vs 36fps. There are known issues if you join a server with a mismatch.
Do you mean I have to make another player profile? I have all mods under one player, and I thought the client will use the server settings!? I prefer to keep one player profile and one GPL install, otherwise it's going to be such a mess... You do NOT pick up the server settings since the 60 fps patch is local. You would have to re-patch in GEM. If you are joining a 36fps race with 60 fps you will have more stutter than King George VI... You could have two separate GPL installations - it is a bit of a pain because you have to install the tracks twice etc etc but having two player profiles would help. Otherwise you will have to re-patch GPL each time you swap between 36 and 60fps. As for the OS you could use a Linux distro (which is free) and run GPL under the Windows emulator WINE. I know several people have done it although I have not myself. I put Ubuntu on an old laptop and it gave it new life! It seems that I have joined 67 Works races here with the 60fpsv2 patched gplc67.exe I suppose...will look into it further and go to the bottom of it...I have once raced 65 in 60fps, a couple of times hosted F2 at 60fps, and offline sometimes I test at 60fps (67)... I always re-patch the gpl*.exe's after closing GEM. The only question I have the stuttering seems to be at random, and no consistency in it...that's why I was thinking some background program or virtual memory was coming into play... Will look into an alternative OS as well. Cheers Paul
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« Reply #24 on: March 11, 2014, 03:49:17 PM +0000 » |
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You can't join a 36fps server with 60fpsV2newmod as it will tell you you are not allowed to join Only 60fpsV1 was allowing this, so brr made 60fpsV2 patch. Yeah, I am dreaming too of a Linux with GPL but there are still not all problems solved FFB is not properly supported yet, I found this http://askubuntu.com/questions/281698/logitech-g25-racing-wheel
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« Reply #25 on: March 14, 2014, 06:18:10 PM +0000 » |
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For 36fps Vsync off and for 60fps Vsync on.
I also turn off triple buffering at 36fps and use it with 60fps. If I turn on the vsync at 36fps, my computer wants to run GPL at 30fps, exactly half the 60Hz native refresh rate of the HDTV. Robert, I use pribluda and display the fps while driving. If you're seeing fps above 37 while on the UKGPL server you're definitely patched for 60 fps. I don't change anything expect patching the exe via GEM and changing these values to match the server net_mdm_client_send_every = 3 ; Client packet freq on dialup net_mdm_client_send_size = 84 ; Client packet size on dialup net_mdm_server_send_every = 3 ; Server packet freq on dialup net_mdm_server_send_size = 384 ; Server packet size on dialup when I switch between 36fps and 60fps. Actually I change more but it is the anisotrophic filtering and anti-aliasing because my computer isn't quite enough to run 60fps unless I scale back on the graphics.
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« Reply #26 on: March 14, 2014, 07:42:23 PM +0000 » |
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...I don't change anything expect patching the exe via GEM and changing these values to match the server
net_mdm_client_send_every = 3...
You don't need to change those. The server settings override yours (in iGOR, at least).
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« Reply #27 on: March 14, 2014, 08:25:28 PM +0000 » |
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Guys, thanks for all your help. I think I found the culprit, at Brands it was my videocard not getting sufficient power. I solved that. My CPU ran 60+C when in idle mode, and 65+C when running GPL, with help of Axel's Hardware Monitor suggestion. Did clean up system hardware, especially cooler, that was full of dust and smoke residue. After a test with all details on in GPL it ran maximum 50,5C. So it seems my CPU went in safe mode running GPL, when the temps got too high. No wonder I got all this stuttering...still need to buy some coolpasta and reinstall cooler again, to have better cooling, and need to check temps and clean up my house and smoke a bit less Again, I'm thankful to be able to race with such a great bunch of guys, and thanks for all the suggestions and your patience with me, it's really appreciated!
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« Reply #28 on: March 15, 2014, 01:52:45 AM +0000 » |
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I'm very pleased to learn that you've got a handle on the situation, Robert. Now if we just slow you down a bit... Doni
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« Reply #29 on: March 18, 2014, 04:18:48 PM +0000 » |
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Me too! And you could always start smoking cigars behind the wheel like they did back in the day .
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