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October 04, 2015, 09:37:31 PM +0100 - Watkins Glen (Classic) - UKGPL Season 29 (2015-16) Works Trophy (67)
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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Robert Fleurke
 Antipasti Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 1 1:04.460
128.459mph
1 49:05.609
126.500mph
45 1:04.906
127.576mph
Goodyear  
Gismo
 TEAM-GTLDK
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 2 +0.300
127.863mph
2 +8.042
126.156mph
45 1:04.956
127.478mph
Goodyear  
Pelle_B
 TEAM-GTLDK
Honda RA300 F1 1967 7 +1.034
126.430mph
3 +53.854
124.229mph
45 1:05.544
126.334mph
Firestone  
Cookie
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 5 +0.885
126.719mph
4 +1:01.596
123.909mph
45 1:05.963
125.532mph
Firestone  
AnGex
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 10 +1.658
125.237mph
5 +1L
122.209mph
44 1:06.160
125.158mph
Goodyear  
Doni Yourth
 Blue Moose Racing
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 12 +2.039
124.520mph
6 +10.646
121.774mph
44 1:06.785
123.986mph
Firestone  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 15 +3.348
122.116mph
7 +2L
119.787mph
43 1:06.969
123.646mph
Firestone  
Ronniepeterson
 
BRM P115 F1 1967 13 +2.174
124.267mph
8 +8L
117.063mph
37 1:07.728
122.260mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Artiglietti
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 3 +0.440
127.588mph
9 +14L
108.152mph
31 1:07.221
123.182mph
Disco
Goodyear  
DLogan
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 8 +1.184
126.142mph
10 +19L
120.651mph
26 1:05.610
126.207mph
Disco
Firestone  
Arf Arf Arf
 Team Baarf
Honda RA300 F1 1967 16 +4.828
119.508mph
11 +28L
115.506mph
17 1:07.033
123.528mph
Disco
Firestone  
Turkey Machine
 
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 4 +0.726
127.028mph
12 +45L
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0 ---
---
Disco
Firestone  
Baab
 Team Baarf
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 6 +0.958
126.577mph
13 (+1)
---
0 ---
---
Disco
Goodyear  
GregT
 
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 9 +1.208
126.095mph
14
---
0 ---
---
Disco
Firestone  
Samb
 Black Night Racing
BRM P115 F1 1967 11 +1.800
124.969mph
15
---
0 ---
---
Disco
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
BRM P115 F1 1967 14 +2.227
124.169mph
16
---
0 ---
---
unknown
Goodyear  
Iestyn Davies
 Blue Moose Racing
BRM P115 F1 1967 18 17
---
0 ---
---
Disco
Goodyear  
9 UKGPL
 
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 17 18 DNS ---
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Firestone  

Moderator's Report

SUMMARY

Robert Fleurke wins the race from start to finish, in front of Peter "Gismo" Antonsen. Pelle Buchner rounds out the podium. Sadly the race started with a multicar wreck in the Esses, and many cars had to retire or suffered damage.


Server replay time: 0h00m57s

Pelle Buchner has a good start and gets alongside Axel. This upsets Axel and he gets out of shape losing some momentum. Bob sees an opportunity to try to get alongside Axel, just when Axel tried to close the gap. Both cars touch (they only make lag-contact), Jethro slows on the outside, and then cars start to pile in from behind.

This was all a chain reaction. It starts with Pelle's agressive start. You can argue he should be more cautious, but after all we're racing, and he makes sure to hold his line. Axel can't be blamed for getting out of shape, he genuinly didn't expect Pelle, and despite losing some momentum he was entitled to steer into the apex. Since Bob uploaded his client replay, things are more clear, it seems to be a lag contact. There's even more space between Axel/Bob than on the server replay.

When contact was made between Bob and Axel, Bob was doing 101mph and Axel was doing 100mph. So it was very close and it does look like warp played a part, but we're not convinced the cars wouldn't have collided without lag. Bob had already overtaken Jethro and was then intent on diving up the inside of Axel. We don't think Bob had any overlap when Axel turned in. Patience and care should be paramount at the start.

Due to the nature and topography of the Esses, in our opinion no one is to blame for lack of care after the initial "contact" between Axel and Bob. Arf and David did an admirable job avoiding the mess, but the others were all victims themselves. Andreas, Dean, Ronnie and Doni can continue the race, damaged or not. The others have to retire.

In the aftermath Iestyn -who has connection problems- runs through the wrecks at full speed, and hits Bob who has to retire, but he doesn't see other cars, and also disconnects at the backstraight. We have seen this before, and Iestyn can't be blamed.

We ask the drivers to be more careful at the start, stick to their own side until they know it is safe to move over, don't take unnecessary risks and if the car ahead slows, be prepared to slow too if it is not safe to make a pass!

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« on: September 28, 2015, 02:01:17 PM +0100 »

Season 29 Works Trophy - Round 01 - Watkins Glen

For the first round of the Season we go to Watkins Glen, New York. Watkins Glen International (nicknamed "The Glen") is an automobile race track located in Watkins Glen, New York, at the southern tip of Seneca Lake. It was long known around the world as the home of the Formula One United States Grand Prix, which it hosted for twenty consecutive years (1961–1980), but the site has been home to road racing of nearly every class, including the World Sportscar Championship, Trans-Am, Can-Am, NASCAR Sprint Cup Series, the International Motor Sports Association and the IndyCar Series.

The circuit is known as the Mecca of North American road racing and is a very popular venue among fans and drivers. The facility is currently owned by International Speedway Corporation.

Race List = iGOR
Server = UKGPL_9
IP = 37.157.48.87
Race date = Sunday 04-10-2015
Time = 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT)
Track = Papyrus Original
Race length = 45 Laps (50 minutes)
Variant = 1967
60fps patch used   = 60fpsV2newmod
Damage Model = Pro
Qualifying time = 30 minutes

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« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2015, 12:36:24 PM +0100 »

I managed to get some sort of temporary fix from BT yesterday, but my gremlin is back - I can't run at any significant speed online or I get a disconnection/router reset.

My best bet for tonight is just to start from the pits and try to make it to the start line to at least gain tokens for next time Embarrassed, and hope the server picks it up before I get disconnected!

Edit: Seems to have gotten worse, any movement out of the pit box or grid slot = instant disconnection  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2015, 03:45:49 PM +0100 »

Sorry to hear mate, hope it will be solved soon...
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« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2015, 09:38:32 PM +0100 »

Hmmm, not exactly the best way to start the season. The word rubbish comes to mind.........
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« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2015, 10:09:20 PM +0100 »

Interesting evening. New house, new broadband provider, new desk....new floor....

New desk: Much thinner than old desk - steering wheel lugs can't go that small, so ended up stuffing a small towel under the wheel, which took a few attempts to get right.
New floor: Note to self. Chair with wheels doesn't work so well on wooden floor - every time I hit the brakes I pushed myself away from the desk..
New broadband provider (BT): I hope that I didn't warp/flicker... can anyone who started near the back say whether I did or not?

Some things don't change - I still can't use the brake for too long before my foot becomes really painful, so more healing time required :-( By the time I got to Lap 20ish, it was too much and I lost it at Big Bend...speaking of which I think Ronnie lost it in even bigger style a few laps previously and manage to recover and race, lucky so and so.. :-)

Just one thing about the carnage on Lap 1 - someone near the back went through the accident at lunatic speeds and looked like they took a couple of people out, inc my team mate Baab. That was a shockingly bad idea whoever it was..
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« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2015, 10:09:42 PM +0100 »

That was a quick one.

Some were lucky, some weren't.

I tried to be cautious and take my place in line. I probably could have passed Dean but figured it's too early. It probably wouldn't have helped any except different luck. I'd have still been faced with a blocked track like so many others.
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« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2015, 10:34:51 PM +0100 »


Some things don't change - I still can't use the brake for too long before my foot becomes really painful, so more healing time required :-( By the time I got to Lap 20ish, it was too much and I lost it at Big Bend...speaking of which I think Ronnie lost it in even bigger style a few laps previously and manage to recover and race, lucky so and so.. :-)

Just one thing about the carnage on Lap 1 - someone near the back went through the accident at lunatic speeds and looked like they took a couple of people out, inc my team mate Baab. That was a shockingly bad idea whoever it was..

Yes I was very lucky Arf!

But what about the start from the premier drivers of the Works Division  laugh laugh laugh No red zone these days but a few drivers will be seeing red I'm sure. Drivers going for gaps that simply were not there, not slowing down enough to avoid cars in trouble ahead and oh yeah that driver who thought it best to floor it through the entire crash fest causing even more mayhem  laugh laugh laugh

You just have to laugh  laugh laugh laugh

Welcome all to Season 29  laugh laugh laugh
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« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2015, 10:52:07 PM +0100 »

Sorry to hear guys. I gathered during the race half the field had retired early on...  Sad

I encourage anyone to report incidents, especially when you were a victim! The removal of the red zone doesn't mean one should be more agressive, or take more risks. Always better be safe than sorry, especially on Lap 1.
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« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2015, 11:14:21 PM +0100 »

Results up, replay up. I made it two corners before being ram-raided by Dean. Suchislife. 20 tokens down the pan.
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« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2015, 03:13:11 PM +0100 »

Thanks Jethro!

If no one will report the incident, I will...this has to be moderated...

As for the race, mine went very smooth, starting from Pole. Was happy especially with my first 10 laps, could create a little gap to Peter. Really expected him to stay with me or have a run on me first laps, but I knew if I could make a little gap early on I could manage it for the rest of the race...

Since my racetime was about 8/9s faster than my previous Brabham 45 lapper, I can only be satisfied with my own performance...the lapped cars were very courteous, thanks! Great job Peter, very consistent. Also good job Pelle in the black Honda Wink Axel did a fine job recovering from the lap 1 incident staying in the lead lap. Also well done finishers and many commiserations to the retirements.

Really bummed to see so many retire on Lap 1, and also Iestyn having probs...
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« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2015, 06:42:02 PM +0100 »

...I made it two corners before being ram-raided by Dean...

And as soon as you explain how I could have made my car incorporeal so as to avoid contact with you (who were 40mph off pace with little/no warning in a rather narrow spot), I'd be more than happy to apologize for my "failings".  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2015, 07:33:22 PM +0100 »

Well, not the come back I was hoping for, good news is that it can only get better  Grin. I was way off Robert and Gismo's cracking pace in qually, got passed by Pelle at the Loop on lap one and then proceeded to somehow activate the option menu from my wheel with some jerky moves, and whack the Glen's magical barriers. Twice. After downgrading to a BRM with the first hit, with the second I was returned to the track driving a perfectly functioning specimen of 65's BT11, with which I went on annoying the rest of the surviving field for the remainder of my engine's lifetime. The car was handling perfectly, just a full 10 seconds slower than everyone else on the straights. Did my best to avoid being too much of an impediment, but I know some of you guys caught me in the esses and had to lift a bit, sorry about that, I hate those buggers trundling around with a broken machinery just as much as you do  Grin Grin. I was actually lucky to survive those crashes keeping all my wheels and rack up some points in the end.

Big grats to Robert for speedy laptimes and great consistency, it was clear from last season's results that the level of the competition has gone up a notch at UKGPL. Also grats to Gismo and Pelle for podium and commiserations to the usual first lap victims... thanks for the racing, see you at the next one.
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« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2015, 08:45:48 PM +0100 »

Just viewed the server replay, which shows me hitting Cookie into turn 2.  Sorry about that Axel, I was trying to avoid you and from what I remember from viewing my client rpy, I seemed to just manage.  You seemed to save the slide and carry-on, I hope unscathed.  I'll take another look and send a clip in with a narrative.

I hope my indiscretion didn't somehow inspire what happened with Jethro and Dean.

After Jethro bounced along in front of me I took my time to wait for him to come to a stop, or at least so I could get round him.  A few seconds later Iestyn screamed up the hill and after hitting a wreck or two, ploughed through the RHS of my car, flipping me into retirement then carrying on without deviation?!  Not sure if your connection was to blame Iestyn?  Granted I was coming back onto the line but honestly didn't expect someone to approach soo fast.

See ya next time,

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« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2015, 09:33:48 PM +0100 »

I had decided to run the BRM this season, simply because I have never really tamed that beast in all my years racing GPL. So, I was 3 secs off the pace and starting at the back, planning to concentrate on finishing the race and learning about the BRM along the way.....

Allowed the main pack to ease away from the grid , then got the BRM up to speed staying wide through T2 in case someone squeezed up the inside............. Then the road was completely blocked with spinning cars!!

I jumped on the brakes and even spun the car around hoping scrub some more speed off, I think I hit at least 3 cars and ended up on my head, race over.

I have learned that the BRM is not immune to crashfests, but I know nothing about how to make it go faster!!  Undecided
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« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2015, 09:54:45 PM +0100 »

I hate the bourne beast , its biggest fault for me is low end torque , a pig to get off the line and by the time you get up to speed the rest of the field are off into the distance , love to know how to get it going well . Think you are a very brave man,  good luck , hope you get the L plates off sooner than later .
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