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September 26, 2017, 09:36:59 PM +0100 - Buenos Aires - UKGPL Season 32 (2017-18) 1955 Grand Prix
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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Ballast
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
Connaught Type B F1 1955 1 1:41.548
86.224mph
1 49:43.797
85.100mph
29 1:41.845
85.973mph
Pirelli  
MagicArsouille
 
Maserati 250F F1 1955 2 +0.660
85.668mph
2 +3.541
84.999mph
29 1:41.753
86.051mph
Pirelli  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Connaught Type B F1 1955 4 +1.447
85.013mph
3 +59.340
83.441mph
29 1:42.903
85.089mph
Pirelli  
bagrupp
 Team Groundhog
Mercedes W196 F1 1955 3 +1.122
85.282mph
4 +1:12.453
83.083mph
29 1:41.675
86.117mph
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GregT
 Team Baarf
Connaught Type B F1 1955 5 +2.288
84.324mph
5 +1:29.891
82.611mph
29 1:43.637
84.486mph
Pirelli  
Samb
 Black Night Racing
Gordini T16 F1 1955 8 +3.362
83.461mph
6 +1L
81.735mph
28 1:45.138
83.280mph
Englebert  
Ronniepeterson
 
Gordini T16 F1 1955 11 +4.667
82.436mph
7 +20.133
81.190mph
28 1:45.888
82.690mph
Englebert  
francesco
 Antipasti Racing
Lancia D50 F1 1955 7 +2.835
83.883mph
8 +31.433
80.888mph
28 1:45.171
83.254mph
Pirelli  
Rainier
 Black Night Racing
Mercedes W196 F1 1955 13 +5.261
81.977mph
9 +32.565
80.857mph
28 1:44.647
83.671mph
Continental  
Clive Loynes
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Gordini T16 F1 1955 6 +2.401
84.233mph
10 +49.637
80.405mph
28 1:45.344
83.117mph
Englebert  
DLogan
 
Maserati 250F F1 1955 14 +11.824
77.232mph
11 +1:13.855
79.771mph
28 1:44.355
83.905mph
Pirelli  
ReiverEcosse
 
Vanwall VW55 F1 1955 12 +5.041
82.146mph
12 +2L
78.538mph
27 1:47.202
81.677mph
Pirelli  
dave curtis
 Black Night Racing
Maserati 250F F1 1955 9 +3.724
83.174mph
13 +10.283
78.270mph
27 1:46.463
82.244mph
Pirelli  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Maserati 250F F1 1955 10 +4.215
82.788mph
14 +25L
73.546mph
4 1:47.933
81.124mph
Disco
Pirelli  
EvilClive
 Blue Moose Racing
Gordini T16 F1 1955 15 DNS ---
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Englebert  
9 UKGPL
 
Lancia D50 F1 1955 15 16 ---
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Pirelli  

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« Reply #45 on: September 26, 2017, 05:27:35 PM +0100 »

If it's heat related then it's more than likely the heat transfer paste.
Standard OEM stuff lasts upto 10 years in my experience and then breaks down too much to do anything.

As you've ordered your cooler it's a bit late now but I'd have suggested cleaning the old cooler and top of your CPU and re-fixing using some Arctic Silver or similar  Smiley
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« Reply #46 on: September 26, 2017, 07:36:04 PM +0100 »

Cheers Tim,

I've fitted the new cooler and I've put a 5" fan in the side of the case such that it "blows" at the cpu.

Checking the temp by rebooting and going to the hardware monitor in the bios I was seeing 51degC with the old cooler after moderate work.  The new cooler dropped it to 41 and with the blower on it is only 36 after running GPL.

It's now cooler than a dead penguin!

Which is more than I can say for the engine in my jalopy for tonight!  Can the engine temp be taken as a guide to its health or is it all just too variable to know?  I'm seeing 103 deg C and wondering if I'm going to see all 25 laps on the same engine.
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« Reply #47 on: September 26, 2017, 08:26:25 PM +0100 »

Honestly don't know - I've yet to blow one through heat.
It's normally miss-shifts and silly RPM  Grin
Or the Gordini badge on the front  Wink
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« Reply #48 on: September 26, 2017, 08:44:33 PM +0100 »

I'm seeing 103 deg C and wondering if I'm going to see all 25 laps on the same engine.

Not ideal, but it's unlimited resets - so you can at least use that safety net if required [each with the appropriate stop & go of course...].
But you should have an idea if temperature matters for the next event Smiley

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« Reply #49 on: September 26, 2017, 09:35:10 PM +0100 »

Late home and just missed the race by 3 mins.  Thanks to Jethro for stepping in with UKGPL_9 server.
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« Reply #50 on: September 26, 2017, 10:28:20 PM +0100 »

First world problems - every other person having no issues joining the server apart from the lemon sat next to the bleedin' thing! Error 10054 via IGOR, local IP goes "nope, can't find you" directly in GPL. Any ideas?
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« Reply #51 on: September 26, 2017, 10:32:51 PM +0100 »

Well gents thank you for that!  Huge fun for my first race.  Glad I made the finish!  Was getting very worried about Mr Curtis breathing down my neck at the end, and I enjoyed my duel with Mr Logan until his pressure cracked me and I fell off the road.

Wonderful stuff!  Roll on Monaco!
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« Reply #52 on: September 26, 2017, 10:48:54 PM +0100 »

My race started with the usual engines festival.The first after half lap and the second after 20.2 S&G and pursuit of the other pilots.
The second engine explode after reaching the cars of Reinier and Perterson  Sad
Anyway i was not able to reach my track record of 1,4390
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« Reply #53 on: September 26, 2017, 11:25:51 PM +0100 »

Hard luck Jethro and no I don't have a clue.

My race was a disaster.  I was well organised for this event, having sorted myself a race setup with the required amount of fuel in it.

Then just as qually finished it was noticed by someone that we were required to do 29 laps instead of the expected 25.  I was still trying to add a couple of laps worth when you all cleared off down the road without me.  :-(

The Gordini just didn't have the brakes to pass anybody, well not with me driving, and as a result they got themselves in a bad place from which no amount of lift and coast seemed to let them recover.  Then the tyres started to overheat and I had a couple of spins to finish the job off properly.

Well done to Alex on finishing and congrats to Tim, Tristan and the other bloke who lapped me.
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« Reply #54 on: September 26, 2017, 11:51:20 PM +0100 »

Congrats Tim, Tristan, and Clive! It looks like Tim has a feel for this mod.

Sorry Clive. I didn't know where to go. I should have braked more but I worried about causing mayhem behind me.

Things went decent after the early incident. I went off the track a couple of times but I kept the car in good shape.

Clive tried to pull off a double pass. He almost did it. We were 3 wide on the second straight. The next lap I couldn't brake for the same hairpin Clive missed the lap before.

Sam had me smiling for a while. I was faster but I couldn't see a way to pass him. I tried to take it easy and save my brakes while behind him. I couldn't get a good run on him down the main straight. I figured I need him to make a mistake or get my brakes in good shape and outbrake him into T1. Luckily I had been saving my brakes behind Sam. I had saved just enough into T1 on one lap. A little more fade and I might have hit him. On the very lap I thought I might finally be in position coming out the last hairpin Sam lost it on the exit. That made it easy to hold P5. I quickly saw I couldn't gain on Clive. The only suspense left was, do I have enough fuel to finish? I didn't realize I might run out until late in the race.

Thanks for the race guys.

Any ideas?

Make sure the GPL and GPLSecrets folder are not set to "read-only" and that file indexing is allowed on both folders.
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« Reply #55 on: September 27, 2017, 07:35:51 AM +0100 »

Not an inspiring start to the season. Must have clicked the wrong set up box, so I started the on default settings. The combination of understeer & steering ratio meant I was spending far too much time off track. Only having 12 laps of fuel persuaded me that retirement was a better option. I won't be starting Monaco. Despite much practice I have not worked out how to spare the brakes at Tabac so there is nothing left for Gasworks apart from the barriers.
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« Reply #56 on: September 27, 2017, 07:44:13 AM +0100 »

First world problems - every other person having no issues joining the server apart from the lemon sat next to the bleedin' thing! Error 10054 via IGOR, local IP goes "nope, can't find you" directly in GPL. Any ideas?

Maybe, you did not select "use core settings" ?
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« Reply #57 on: September 27, 2017, 08:54:25 AM +0100 »

Hope you can get onto your server next race Jethro! Appreciate you hosting this race.

That was my first run in the Gordini. It felt as if the brakes were made out of cheese and coupled with a gutless engine and one that made it's peak torque towards the red line, almost as if it's trying to catch you out at every hairpin exit, it was a handful with my limited skills at the wheel. It definitely caught me out more than once this race, as Greg alluded to in an earlier post.

Despite my lack of pace, more so the driver than the car, much as I'd like to claim otherwise  Grin, I found myself in an undeserved 3rd after a couple of laps, thanks to the misfortune of others. It wasn't to last, I was a moving chicane and Bastian & Clive made it past easily enough. Greg took a little longer to pass me but it was a case of when, rather than if. Enjoyed the battle all the same Greg, I admire you for managing not to hit me with these car's brakes!

Congrats to Tim, Tris & Clive for their podium positions.
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« Reply #58 on: September 27, 2017, 09:47:24 AM +0100 »


.................................. and the other bloke who lapped me.


The Connaught was a sort of "easy option", because I had used it here in a previous fun race and ( mainly because ) I had done no other practice for this race. But I had no idea how quick other guys would be.
So, 4th on the grid was a pleasant surprise, although Tim had squeezed an extra second or more out of his Connaught and there was a couple of faster cars between me and him!
Strangely I already had ( theoretically at least ) enough fuel for 29 laps so my car was set up to carry that load. 4 abreast on the grid is tight, but I feel that it is just correct for this era and adds a certain spice to proceedings.
I thought that turn 1 was going to be interesting with the pack charging up behind and I was right, except that I was the interest element!! A nudge from behind punted me onto the grass as the field swept past and I rejoined almost last, there was only some duffer in a Gordini still filling up the fuel tank in the pitlane  Wink behind me.
With these cars and this track I thought that any chance of a good finish had gone, but there was still 29 laps to go. As cars ran out of brakes ahead I was picking up places and a few cunning passes got me up to 4th place at around half distance. But the leading trio were way in the distance and any thoughts of climbing higher were just a dream.
Then I came across a Merc cutting the grass at the hairpin and pribluda told me that it was Bagrupp in 3rd place  Shocked OOOOh! I could smell blood  shifty

I had fallen into a rhythm during the race where I was only really braking at 2 spots ( at the hairpins ). This meant that I had full brakes when I needed them, but in my excitement at catching Bagrupp I forgot the routine and had used a few dabs on the brakes through T1 and T2 to try and catch the Merc. When I arrived at the first hairpin I did not have the brakes I expected and totally missed the corner.
I recovered and got back into the proper rhythm but that 3rd place was 600mtrs up the road  Undecided.
I just maintained my pace for lap after lap focusing on avoiding mistakes until, there was that silver lawnmower again  Grin.
I took the chance and made the pass and pushed as hard as I dared without risking the brakes with 4 laps to go.  I suspect that Bagrupp had another incident because he suddenly dropped way back, which was just as well because I came upon that Gordini driver again and had to make allowances for this natural hazard.  Wink

Grats to Tim and Tris, I had hoped to annoy you two, but T1 ended that possibility.
Also congrats to Reiver for finishing his first race with UKGPL, I suspect that he discovered racing against real people is a little different to the AI and much more fun??
I will be on vacation for the next 2 weeks so will miss the fun on track, although I should be able to kepp up to date on the forum.
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« Reply #59 on: September 27, 2017, 10:15:10 AM +0100 »

Great report there Evil.

I also struggle to keep my daft left foot out of things in the heat of battle.  I think that this is why I was convinced originally that the brakes that were fitted for the race were not as "good" as the ones used in training!

I was talking severely to my left foot and managing to close on a Merc and another Gordini when I was spooked by a big red thing suddenly appearing behind me.  Thinking it was the leader, my brain stalled and I didn't change down fast enough for the final hairpin.  That was the end of my attempt to catch the Merc.  Later on, said red thing appeared back in front of me, having been into the pits, and I hung on to him for a while.  By now the real leaders were giving me too much to think about and the left rear tyre tried to melt, causing me to spin at T1.

But the super-cooled and fully blown pc didn't miss a beat! Grin
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