UKGPL Season 38 (Spring 2021) 1967 F1 Sprint (Works) - Hockenheim - Apr 18

[Arf Arf Arf]

Evil and I were in the Opel Kurve when he disappeared. I continued for a while and expired at the Ost Kurve... I do not recall if was on the lap after the mass disco or the lap after that, but as I was approaching the braking point for Ost my screen/connection/something wobbled a little which disoriented me and I think I missed my braking point (or it didn't register my braking input?), leading me to slam into the barriers and lose a wheel. Did you see anything for that Cookie? I was not disconnected but I forgot to save the replay.

[JonnyO]

    I'm from South America, so I have a good school on connection problems.
  There is a chronic problem here between Brazil and Argentina in addition to the rivalry of football. Which is the connection between the two countries, it was never satisfactory, it is normal for races between us where you can clearly see some drivers with a lot of lag, blinking like fireflies, these sometimes end up falling out of the race, but I never saw a massive drop because of a pilot. I have some replays to watch for anyone interested.
  The Hokenhein 67 track is one of my favorites, not by chance I left the eagle for her, but, in online races, without a flat statistic, in a totally random order, I observe freeze in some events with AI, as well as Zolder, another favorite track for me .

[Cookie]

I am in central Europe - central Germany and 5 of 8 disconnected are german!

Bob is also in D!?

[Arf Arf Arf]

Yup, Baab is in northern Germany, and I am just outside London. Clive I think is based somewhere near Bristol? Doni (Canada?) survived, not sure where Greg is

[Rainier]

Hi Jonny'O

As you are moderator (with me) of this serie, do you think we have to cancel this round and to race again in Hockenheim or elsewhere ?

The next free sunday is on 13 June...

[JonnyO]

   As a moderator, I reschedule this race again for the next weekend, and as a moderator I have an obligation to participate in it.

   And as a moderator, I vote for those who have completed 100% of the race to be able to participate or not in the next one, these being the option to keep their points.

   Remembering that this option cannot be valid for a moderator, I will participate in the next race.
  This is my vote.
(my vote is based on my opinion, I have no knowledge of this event under the rules of the UKGPL, I don't want to go over that)

   I had a lot of races on this track, I believe that it is not 100% reliable, but the error rate is very low, can we risk in a lightning strike falling in the same place? I think so.
if you repeat the problem, we will delete this track until the concert

[Rainier]

Next Sunday, there is a mod55 race.

[JonnyO]

  Sorry David!

  The  sunday is on 13 June.

[Arf Arf Arf]

So... if the podium choose not to race/cannot race then other people take the podium and get those points? Sounds weird, and potentially disadvantages others who finish in different positions at the end of the season.

I think you just need to accept it was an unlucky event and leave as is. Discos rarely happen to me happily, but it has been known - we don't rerun races for individual discos and all that they did differently was disco alone...

By all means rerun the race for 'moral' victories/fun/test the circuit but for those reasons only

[Rainier]

Jonny,

what are the GPLBrasil rules in case of massive discos ? 

[Philippe Girard]

As a reminder

I have been experiencing more freeze since November 2020, and until the first 3 or 4 races in 2021.
I changed my hard drive, and since then, no more freezes
I don't know if I'm off topic, but I wanted to remind you. I try to help as much as I can...

[Phil Thornton]

The UKGPL rules are at the bottom of this page. The rules state:

In the event of a mass disconnection or other server problem occurring after lap one. The moderator may:

• Reconstruct the result based on the replay.
• Declare the race to be red flagged at the end of the preceding lap and take the final results from that lap.
• Declare the race null and void and arrange for it to be run again.

But given that this is a joint championship, the GPL Brazil rules have an equal standing.

At UKGPL we have tended to avoid rerunning races because it is difficult to decide where to draw the line. If we are not careful we may go down the path of rerunning races for the slightest problem (not that I'm suggesting that is the case here). We also have a very busy schedule so it is difficult to find a slot where all the original participants are available for a rerun. However, if David and JonnyO can agree a new date, a rerun maybe the way forward.

[JonnyO]

    in this case we will follow the UKGPL regulation, because in GPLBrasil we are not predicting, the decision is unilateral by the administrator, so we will use the UKGPL regulation.

  I could vote for the red flag and follow the result, but I won the race and my vote would not be ethical.

  If you understand, I have to stay out of that decision.

  I accept the decision of the other moderator.

[Rainier]

In my opinion, we could rerun the race on sunday 13 June   OR  take the results from lap 5 which is the easiest solution.

If we choose final results from lap 5, it will be :

1 Jonny'O
2 G Taber
3 K. Miele
4 L Albrecht
5 R. Jungle
6 T. Bot
7 B. Whitwell
8 F. Policardi
9 A. Cookie
10 E. Farina
11 A. GPL67
12 Doni67
13 A Gebhardt
14 A. Arf-Arf
15 Evil67

DNF R. Frizzo, B. Grupp and S. Drake

Is everybody OK with this result ?

[Lasse Albrecht]

I would like a rerun in June. The standings after 5 laps can only barely be representative of what could happen in a 25 lap race, especially considering the laptimes around Hockenheim.